6inch lift kit avail for D5! 35's Anyone?

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Agreed in the past, now dealer modded cars is a huge industry, look at any ARB facebook page, that's their bread and butter. dealers drop them at ARB,opo,tjm etc and owner picks up with 25-50k mods all under finance. Not a bad way to do it. Seen many a new fender done this way. Basically if mods are avail from main players at time of purchase people will do..agree with chips though, asking for trouble under warranty, although some would disagree.
Hopefully mod companys go faster with New Defender than they have done with discos.

Few modded D5s on here under warranty, with tyres, wheels, bars.

Here a members nice example with off-road tyre/wheels. I'm guessing some kind of air susp electronic mod?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...736783f6d8.jpg

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I just don't think it looks right. In fact, I think it looks quite silly. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

79 series...I'm sorry..but mods are mandatory on 79 series often to correct the poor/short cut yota design elements.

I've travelled with a few and have been stunned at the coin chucked at them to mod suspension and wheel track and alternator etc etc and even then they perform quite ordinarily off road seemingly to want to rock n roll n tip over too easily.

A Relative works on modding them and says its common for 79 series to soak up 100k plus in his shop...and often much more😐. Good for their business tho!

But what else is there. ..as Ronnie Dahl says.

Again apologies to all 79 owners out there😕

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Originally Posted by MitchellBros4x4

There's no legal pathway to get any vehicle with stability control engineered at that size lift and in fact, anything over 2" with stability control aren't legally possible at this time.

The maximum lift size is 5" on non stability control vehicles which includes suspension lift and tyre lift.

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Many thanks for that. I have been of that view for a while but good to get it clarified.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by MitchellBros4x4

There's no legal pathway to get any vehicle with stability control engineered at that size lift and in fact, anything over 2" with stability control aren't legally possible at this time.

The maximum lift size is 5" on non stability control vehicles which includes suspension lift and tyre lift.

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Respectfully, It really depends on the engineer and how up to date they are with the latest RMS document and also in some cases if they are willing to legally go outside of RMS mod doc to prove something safe. This is just the reality of engineering as we all know.

Also for the most part im going to talk about NSW, however most states are inline or coming inline with this.

The RMS doc in some cases is a guide for engineers, some Engineers will legally go outside of this document if they can prove it is safe, however with ESC lifts of up to 150mm incl tyres they would NOT need to go beyond what is included in rms mod doc.

Infact the RMS lift guidelines themselves state this and allow for lifts above 150mm incl tyres if safe and dont say ESC is excluded from this.

With ESC, RMS guidelines say it must be tested and proved safe with a defined test by engineer, the test is stated in the doc.

Most states now allow you to go 75mm total with tyres without certification even with ESC.

From: Light vehicle modifications manual:
Suspension and ride height

https://www.google.com/url?q=https:/...xnGlPNyhPSC2eO


So basically in NSW in nutshell, if an engineer can prove a 4x4 lift (even with ESC) safe within the test guidelines it can be certified.

So even a 6inch RRS, RRV, D5 lift if proved safe under testing guidelines could be certed legally in NSW.

Imo knowing how fast RRS, RRV and D5s can go in the twistys, a 4inch susp drop and 33s or 35s is completely reasonable to expect to pass, especially considering the ESC test stated can be done at 80kph.

Keep in mind engineers also have the ability to limit a top speed on paper (small sticker on windscreen saying 120kph max for example) if you exceed you are going outside of your cert.
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Originally Posted by trout1105

By simply fitting higher profile tyres you can achive a Modest lift without the added expense and other problems asociated whith fitting a lift kit,
It is also extreamly simple to put the truck back into "Stock" condition when you are disposing of it.
A tyre lift is also more effective than a lift kit as it raises the diffs which are the lowest part of the truck[thumbsupbig]
I fitted a set of 265/75/16 to my Navara instaed of the standard 265/70/16 and it raised the truck a tad over 1", It doesn't sound like much But it does make a hell of a difference in soft sand and tracks that have a high "Crown" on them[thumbsupbig]

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I would add to this 2 inch lift rods, or electronic 2 inch lift for RRS, RRV, D5, Velar. Easy simple reliable.

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Originally Posted by INter674

79 series...I'm sorry..but mods are mandatory on 79 series often to correct the poor/short cut yota design elements.

I've travelled with a few and have been stunned at the coin chucked at them to mod suspension and wheel track and alternator etc etc and even then they perform quite ordinarily off road seemingly to want to rock n roll n tip over too easily.

A Relative works on modding them and says its common for 79 series to soak up 100k plus in his shop...and often much more[emoji52]. Good for their business tho!

But what else is there. ..as Ronnie Dahl says.

Again apologies to all 79 owners out there[emoji53]

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Yeah without wanting to go off topic, we have been through this massively in the new defender threads, 79s are great for what they are but need quite a lot of mods to fix factory defects (some can't be fixed like the starter location) Current defers are great but also have issues although less, with transfer needing a lube mod, rear diff usually needs an upgrade etc.
Just depends what you want and how much your willing to spend, both very different vehicles. Compared to a D5, RRS or RRV, there in a different class so no comparison either way.

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Originally Posted by ozscott

Many thanks for that. I have been of that view for a while but good to get it clarified.

Cheers

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From memory this was the case at one stage, however from information on NSW RMS website now, certainly engineering is much more reasonable and fair regarding lifting 4x4s of any kind.

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Originally Posted by akovach

I just don't think it looks right. In fact, I think it looks quite silly. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

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Imo looks better than stock, but needs barwork, rear spare holder on roofrack to finish it off.

Interesting discussion. Thanks for posting up parts of the Code Blackrangie. I think the takeaway from this is don't assume you will get 1. Lifts on ESC vehicles engineer approved (especially bigger ones) and 2. Insurance either way. Take nothing for granted and if you have the perseverance, time and money then be prepared to weave through the minefield.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by ozscott

Interesting discussion. Thanks for posting up parts of the Code Blackrangie. I think the takeaway from this is don't assume you will get 1. Lifts on ESC vehicles engineer approved (especially bigger ones) and 2. Insurance either way. Take nothing for granted and if you have the perseverance, time and money then be prepared to weave through the minefield.

Cheers

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Agreed! Good to also know more than what is commonly known as the limits is possible.