Sacrilege

The idea of the 2wd option is to target a market that wants a range rover for the quality and image a range rover represents but they primarily do urban driving and want the slightly better fuel economy. Nothing wrong with that in my book. You don't need a 4x4 to drive around the city.... And the principal of it being AWD instead of 4x4 is again to lower fuel consumption. Why power all 4 wheels permanently if its not needed. The haldex unit does a more than adequate job of using the rear diff when its required and letting it "free wheel" the rest of the time.

if you were even considering an Evoque, go test drive a Kia Sportage platinum, you wont buy the "LR" , ugh could not even bring myself to call one a Land Rover.

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Originally Posted by goingbush

if you were even considering an Evoque, go test drive a Kia Sportage platinum, you wont buy the "LR" , ugh could not even bring myself to call one a Land Rover.

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Just out of curiosity is your opinion the same in regards to the freelander?

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Originally Posted by d3syd

Totally agree.

At the end of the day, LR like any manufacturer has to make money, so they have to make cars to pander to the masses. But they need to maintain a military variant, otherwise the core value of the brand will be lost.

Even Mercedes has the foresight to keep their G-Wagen, and as a result win lucrative military contracts.

And Front Wheel Drive is just going too far :no2:

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I don't understand why you both think its so important for land rover to have a milatary version? The uk dropped it quite a while ago.....Why make a vehicle that no one wants? Beside the fact that even though they are pretty good vehicle (and I am a BIG LR fan) they just aren't that great for what the forces need. I lived in the US as a child as my dad was posted there and when I started working for land rover I asked him: "you could have a wolf, tangi or a Humvee which would you choose?"
His reply was "if I wanted to quietly stalk through the woods then the wolf, if I'm having petrol bombs thrown at me and in a built up urban area then the tangi, if I'm going offroading and I want to get through pretty much anything at a half decent speed then the Humvee" I was shocked he said that......my poor poor land rover wasn't picked as top for offroad :( but I respect his answer, he's served 37 years in the RAF regiment, has an MBE, has been nearly everywhere in the world and has driven all 3 vehicles more times than ive had hot dinners through various situations including expeditions across mexico twice. As much as it pains me to say.....LR just don't cut it any more for the military it seems for various reasons so I'm all for the focusing on the public brand side of things.

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Originally Posted by fonfe

Just out of curiosity is your opinion the same in regards to the freelander?

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absolutely

and if LandRover stop making the Defender or a similar agricultural version with live axles, they will lose me forever. I'll never buy a d3 / d4 / rrs / freelancer / whatever the public masses want . I'd rather drive a truck

But a full size range rover is ok in your book?
WHY?

Why did you chose LR over a lets say a hilux?

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Originally Posted by fonfe

if I'm going offroading and I want to get through pretty much anything at a half decent speed then the Humvee"

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All well and good if all the tracks are 3 metres wide, and there aren't any trees about...:D. Would love to see how one would go in Wombat - some places I can hardy squeeze the RRC through - the terrain is very much suited to a series Landy or similar. No way a Humvee would get anywhere... without a chainsaw...

But I see the point - just having a stir.:)

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Originally Posted by bacicat

All well and good if all the tracks are 3 metres wide, and there aren't any trees about...:D. Would love to see how one would go in Wombat - some places I can hardy squeeze the RRC through - the terrain is very much suited to a series Landy or similar. No way a Humvee would get anywhere... without a chainsaw...

But I see the point - just having a stir.:)

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Haha love a good stir! I think when he was saying that he was thinking about flat out through across a desert or through dry river beds etc.
but then again a lot of weight and size with a Humvee one could just ram some small trees with speed and hope for the best!

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Originally Posted by fonfe

But a full size range rover is ok in your book?
WHY?

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Comfort... Nuff said. I'll take you for a ride some time.:)

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Originally Posted by fonfe

Haha love a good stir! I think when he was saying that he was thinking about flat out through across a desert or through dry river beds etc.
but then again a lot of weight and size with a Humvee one could just ram some small trees with speed and hope for the best!

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Ha ha - more than likely, but there are some decent trees there. My mate took his F250 for a spin up one track. Took him two hours with a chainsaw to get back out.:D