L660 or L663

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Originally Posted by scarry

That is good info


This is a little more up to date,i think,but may have been on here before though.

Seen that many articles on this vehicle,its hard to keep up with it all.

2020 Land Rover Defender revealed during off-road testing

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Nice one!

"but we are expecting a range of variants in both the SWB and LWB bodies that will also include more off-road focused models and special off-road SVX editions. Just don’t expect the commercial style vehicles of Land Rovers in the past that have served military and NGOs around the globe so well for generations."

Yeah that's why i post all the new articles on the other thread so when ya look at defender news ya just look for new dates.

"Just don’t expect the commercial style vehicles of Land Rovers in the past that have served military and NGOs around the globe so well for generations."

So no longer a Defender? ...Or is it now a Climate Defender?

I can't see any reason why there wouldn't be commercial versions. The vehicle has to meet crash and safety rules, like any other vehicle, but that's normal now. Stripping it down to a basic specification shouldn't be a problem. It was done with the basic version of the G wagon bought by the Army.
I also don't think the lack of obvious utes in the pics we've seen proves anything. After all, these are camouflaged vehicles, so who knows what is underneath the camo?
Looking at the pics. there is a distinct vertical line behind the side doors, so why couldn't there be a ute under the camo?
I assume LR will want to offer as many versions as possible. It would be very strange if that didn't include utes, since they are such big sellers worldwide.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I can't see any reason why there wouldn't be commercial versions. The vehicle has to meet crash and safety rules, like any other vehicle, but that's normal now. Stripping it down to a basic specification shouldn't be a problem. It was done with the basic version of the G wagon bought by the Army.
I also don't think the lack of obvious utes in the pics we've seen proves anything. After all, these are camouflaged vehicles, so who knows what is underneath the camo?
Looking at the pics. there is a distinct vertical line behind the side doors, so why couldn't there be a ute under the camo?
I assume LR will want to offer as many versions as possible. It would be very strange if that didn't include utes, since they are such big sellers worldwide.

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I think they will but maybe not straight up.

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Originally Posted by Zeros

"Just don’t expect the commercial style vehicles of Land Rovers in the past that have served military and NGOs around the globe so well for generations."

So no longer a Defender? ...Or a Climate Defender perhaps.

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Haha

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I can't see any reason why there wouldn't be commercial versions. The vehicle has to meet crash and safety rules, like any other vehicle, but that's normal now. Stripping it down to a basic specification shouldn't be a problem. It was done with the basic version of the G wagon bought by the Army.
I also don't think the lack of obvious utes in the pics we've seen proves anything. After all, these are camouflaged vehicles, so who knows what is underneath the camo?
Looking at the pics. there is a distinct vertical line behind the side doors, so why couldn't there be a ute under the camo?
I assume LR will want to offer as many versions as possible. It would be very strange if that didn't include utes, since they are such big sellers worldwide.

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Not many utes around with IRS,and i bet 100% they won't go back to live axles.

And for something different,we will just have to wait and see[biggrin]

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Originally Posted by scarry

Not many utes around with IRS,and i bet 100% they won't go back to live axles.

And for something different,we will just have to wait and see[biggrin]

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Is there any utes with IRS snd Monocoque?
Is the lack of air susp the reason you dont see it much?

I don't know about current production, but there have been plenty of utes in the past with IRS and unitary construction - VW comes immediately to mind, or Citroen, probably plenty of others. A locally built one fifty years ago was the Austin 1800.

Commodore utes from around 2000 are all IRS and monocoque. Anything can be done. But some ways are cheaper and easier than others... Hence leaf springs on a live axle with drums is still the norm and doggedly held onto by so many.

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Originally Posted by DiscoClax

Commodore utes from around 2000 are all IRS and monocoque. Anything can be done. But some ways are cheaper and easier than others... Hence leaf springs on a live axle with drums is still the norm and doggedly held onto by so many.

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Hmm looks like its not as big a deal as some make out then, just has to be engineered strong enough.

Hopefully the do monocoque and subframe for Susp, subframe allows suspension "dropping" like the RRS and RRV kit avail in states, however by the looks of the mule shots it jacks pretty high already.