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    quote..Obviously, this would be for a road biased version... who knows what they would limit an off road biased version to.

    I'm lost more now.....

    ...a road biased version? What is a Discovery? What is a Discovery Sport? (D5 doesn't exist , according to Land Rover Qld)

    ....and really? they are going to make an off road biased version of the Defender?

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    wondering how much is the price going to be? $100k plus??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post
    quote..Obviously, this would be for a road biased version... who knows what they would limit an off road biased version to.

    I'm lost more now.....

    ...a road biased version? What is a Discovery? What is a Discovery Sport? (D5 doesn't exist , according to Land Rover Qld)

    ....and really? they are going to make an off road biased version of the Defender?
    Apologies RB, let me see if I can clarify further to help you understand what I was getting at....

    Quote Originally Posted by SBD4 View Post
    Likely top speeds will be:


    • 4 Cyl Diesel: 194 Kph
    • V6/8 Diesels : 209 Kph (225 Kph with dynamic pack)
    • P400e(Hybrid): 220 Kph
    • S/C V8: 225 Kph (250 Kph with Dynamic pack) - I highly doubt this will happen
    • In line 6: Likely 220 Kph - certainly no more than 250 Kph


    This is all based on the Disco Series 5 (L462)/ RRS Series 2 (L494) top speeds (Disco (L462) only comes in SD4/SD6 Diesel). I highly doubt LR will want a Defender going any faster than an RRS (L494).

    Top speeds are determined either by limitation of engine RPM vs final drive ratio (diesel) or limiter for Petrol versions (RRS SVR tops out at 283 Kph).

    The different engine types determine how quickly you get to the top speed.

    Obviously, this would be for a road biased version of the new defender(in Dynamic guise with low profile 22" tyres and high power engine)... who knows what they (Land Rover) would limit an off road biased version to (if one were to be made with larger tyres that have a taller sidewall etc.).
    I hope that helps. Let me know if you need any more info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fourteen8 View Post
    wondering how much is the price going to be? $100k plus??
    Hopefully Land Rover keep their feet on the ground and make entry point circa $65K-$70K.
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    seen this video?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBD4 View Post
    Likely top speeds will be:


    • 4 Cyl Diesel: 194 Kph
    • V6/8 Diesels : 209 Kph (225 Kph with dynamic pack)
    • P400e(Hybrid): 220 Kph
    • S/C V8: 225 Kph (250 Kph with Dynamic pack) - I highly doubt this will happen
    • In line 6: Likely 220 Kph - certainly no more than 250 Kph


    This is all based on the Disco 5/ RRS 2 top speeds (Disco only comes in SD4/SD6 Diesel). I highly doubt LR will want a Defender going any faster than an RRS.

    Top speeds are determined either by limitation of engine RPM vs final drive ratio (diesel) or limiter for Petrol versions (RRS SVR tops out at 283 Kph).

    The different engine types determine how quickly you get to the top speed.

    Obviously, this would be for a road biased version... who knows what they would limit an off road biased version to.
    Great post, if they do an "SVR" version of the new defender (which is tipped) and suspension drops to same low height as RRS SVR with maybe even wider stance 280kph might well be possible.

    My original comment was based on fact of the fastest Land Rover we have, using it as an example of the absolute extreme of what could be possible on a very similar platform.

    Having said that its probably more likely to be mid 200's for the defender with it being more off road biased so might not be possible susp and handling wise, but who knows we might be surprised again tech is always improving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrangie View Post
    Great post, if they do an "SVR" version of the new defender (which is tipped) and suspension drops to same low height as RRS SVR with maybe even wider stance 280kph might well be possible.

    My original comment was based on fact of the fastest Land Rover we have, using it as an example of the absolute extreme of what could be possible on a very similar platform.

    Having said that its probably more likely to be mid 200's for the defender with it being more off road biased so might not be possible susp and handling wise, but who knows we might be surprised again tech is always improving.
    I don't think they'll make anything that will go faster than the Sport. Even the SVO FFRR has a top speed of 250 Kph. The Sport is Land Rovers go fast vehicle including 1-100 times. While we can talk about the Defender competing with the the MB " AMG G" or even the Jeep Cherokee Trackhawk (Beast!), for me, it would be preferable that the Defender concentrate on the off road credentials. That's where it's heritage lies and that's where Land Rover should focus its capabilities.

    If Land Rover were to put effort into competing at the "go-fast" end of the spectrum then, I would hope that they double that effort in competing in off road capability.
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    .....and rather than a SVR version they should do a SVX version.

    I actually don't really like that idea either as it implies that the very best off road capabilities would be limited to the most expensive vehicle leaving it out of reach of most. The Disco SVX is a classic example of pricing themselves out of the market. I'd almost guarantee that no one will buy it regardless of the financial landscape. If they do a SVX version sans all of the styling guff priced for the people I think it'd go off like a firecracker on cracker night. Perhaps that's what the "X" model designation was in the preso slides posted earlier.

    Anyway, enough of my musings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBD4 View Post
    .....and rather than a SVR version they should do a SVX version.

    I actually don't really like that idea either as it implies that the very best off road capabilities would be limited to the most expensive vehicle leaving it out of reach of most. The Disco SVX is a classic example of pricing themselves out of the market. I'd almost guarantee that no one will buy it regardless of the financial landscape. If they do a SVX version sans all of the styling guff priced for the people I think it'd go off like a firecracker on cracker night. Perhaps that's what the "X" model designation was in the preso slides posted earlier.

    Anyway, enough of my musings.
    Like the Gwagon they will do both SVX and SVR IMO

    As long as they nail the SVX, I dont mind if they do an SVR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrangie View Post
    Like the Gwagon they will do both SVX and SVR IMO

    As long as they nail the SVX, I dont mind if they do an SVR.
    if the SVX came with a $200K price tag would you still be happy?
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