Won’t be retro...

I think the big takeaway from the rear suspension shots is the sway bar, i think the subframed modern LR's usually have a active sway bar, hydraulic from memory, this doesn't have that, I'm guessing this is why it bodyrolled so much at the Ring.

So it seems they may be trying to keep it simple.
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I thought the only active swaybar on a full size Land Rover was on Discovery 2 as an option (ie ACE ..very good system but expensive and they handled well without and very few people signed on) and D2 of course was body (semi mono) on chassis rails. I understood that all D3 and 4 with air suspension had no hydraulic (active) sway bar?

Cheers

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I thought the only active swaybar on a full size Land Rover was on Discovery 2 as an option (ie ACE ..very good system but expensive and they handled well without and very few people signed on) and D2 of course was body (semi mono) on chassis rails. I understood that all D3 and 4 with air suspension had no hydraulic (active) sway bar?

Cheers

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Not sure about those, but it looks like the newer LR's have active front/rear but not defender rear by the looks, or maybe option?

Range Rover Sport suspension design using BWI airspring and active roll control technology

Apologies if this has been posted before:

https://youtu.be/Djhffg6ZeFQ

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If a sway setup is set to allow max safe articulation possible from shocks even from factory isn't that unrestricted articulation?

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But the bloody factory ARB isn't!!

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While Rick is dredging the post!

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I'm playing thread catch up Steve, a few other distractions elsewhere, or maybe I'm just a bit slow these days [emoji23]

A full active or a Kinetic style ARB system is the ultimate anti roll set up.
Land Cruisers and Prados are using a Kinetic (reactive hydraulic) setup these days, it simplifies things big time over the ACE setup (No electronics, pumps or accelerometers needed) and I feel can be more effective in a wider variety of situations.
Proven in the WRC by Citroen and Mitsubishi in Rallye-Raid until banned by the FIA.

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But the bloody factory ARB isn't!!

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Soo, was that you agreeing? [emoji23]

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Originally Posted by rick130

A full active or a Kinetic style ARB system is the ultimate anti roll set up.
Land Cruisers and Prados are using a Kinetic (reactive hydraulic) setup these days, it simplifies things big time over the ACE setup (No electronics, pumps or accelerometers needed) and I feel can be more effective in a wider variety of situations.
Proven in the WRC by Citroen and Mitsubishi in Rallye-Raid until banned by the FIA.

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This is the newer LR setup

Looks very similar to the toyota setup imo

Kinetic Dynamic Suspension System Delivers Elite Off-Road Performance for Toyota Models << White River Toyota

Photos of LR variable hydrualic sway system.

VW to launch ELECTRIC Land Rover Defender rival | Express.co.uk

VW Defender competitor?