Won’t be retro...

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Originally Posted by roverrescue

I know plenty of families with kids 2-3 kids only so surely a 5 seater should be enough???

Nope they all run wagons with three rows, in the early days it means you can space out the car seats that these days are bigger than Captain Pickards captains chair on the enterprise as well as fit in all the kid stuff and then later on more seats means more friends/ family can pile in???

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LOL - three kids elbow to elbow for more than 5 minutes doesn't work. Everyone knows that the formula is 2 kids = 5 seater, 3 kids = 3 rows.

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Originally Posted by roverrescue

But it just doesn’t look big enough to be called a full size wagon??

BR you’d know, did the MOAB guys or lucky8 run a tape measure over the wheelbase?
Maybe my scale is all wrong and this thing is as big as a patrol or 200???

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It is big - it's at least as large as the D4. Have a look at the size of the drivers in the side-profile photos, or it parked next to a G-Wagen at Moab:

https://www.motortrend.com/news/spie...er-spy-shots-1

Have a look at the amount of space between the driver and passenger in one of the recent photos taken through the windscreen and from slightly above. And the leaked interior - the steering wheel of which looks just like the one in the Moab photos - shows what looks to be a front centre seat.

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

LOL - three kids elbow to elbow for more than 5 minutes doesn't work. Everyone knows that the formula is 2 kids = 5 seater, 3 kids = 3 rows.




It is big - it's at least as large as the D4. Have a look at the size of the drivers in the side-profile photos, or it parked next to a G-Wagen at Moab. Have a look at the amount of space between the driver and passenger in one of the recent photos taken through the windscreen and from slightly above. And the leaked interior - the steering wheel of which looks just like the one in the Moab photos - shows what looks to be a front centre seat.

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Was 4 kids = bench seat Kingswood back in my day. 😊👍

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

That's your opinion [emoji4] which is fine, just try not to insult the people putting in effort with offensive remarks, and yes, comedic, dreaming and meaningless are all provocative and offensive, that's my opinion.

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Are you trying to start some sort of new religion?

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Originally Posted by Homestar

Was 4 kids = bench seat Kingswood back in my day. 😊👍

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I used to sleep on the rear parcel shelf of the HR sedan .... as my mother says, couldn't imagine doing that these days.

Great thing about the defender, you cant hear the kids scream. It also has a white noise quality that sends them to sleep. The land rover lullaby.

Will these essential kid control features be standard or optional extras on the new one? Could be a deal breaker.

Got this in the inbox tonight:

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Heres is the LC200 2019, NP 2019, LCP 2019 and the new Defender (and only what we can see so far, no doubt it will look better again fully unwrapped)

Whilst I respect both the nissan and the toyota have many good points. People will see the defender and instantly say that looks tuff in comparison, it will stand out from the super rounded 4x4s we are used to seeing on the road in a way not to far off from the gwagon (of which i don't like the look of, g professional i could live with modded)

Add with its offroad credentials that the reviewers will no doubt froth over + its supreme dual purpose ability, LR comfort, efficiency, power, hybrid etc etc, you have a force to be reckoned with.

I remember when Samsung came out with their smartphones when everyone had an Iphone and shocked the market, this reminds me of that.
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I think this is the most realistic comparison ive seen in the many pages of bickering in this thread.

The new Defender wont be targeting dual cab utes (because it's not a dual cab ute) or 70 series cruiser (because Toyota is just running out the clock on that anyway). This is the market they will be after.
If you want a nice tractor then the current ones will be around for a very long time. I'm not planning on selling mine anytime soon and with 70k on the clock it's no worse than when it was new. If you need a tough work vehicle than you will have to start looking at the light trucks (Isuzu, Fuso, Iveco). It's just progress and the way the world works and no amount of moaning on the internet is going to change that.
You should just be thankful that they continued to make the old one for as long as they did. At 20,000 units per year or whatever it was they were able to make it would have made financial sense to ditch it many years ago.

Out of curiosity.. How may of the haters have actually bought a brand new Land Rover in the last 5 years? At the end of the day they are a company that needs to make money and they make no money off people who buy 20YO TD5's and D2's.

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Originally Posted by fitzy

Who’s number plate ?

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Hmm, surprised it got through the censors..Les Richmond Boys built that one [emoji41]

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Originally Posted by SeanMurr123

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Out of curiosity.. How may of the haters have actually bought a brand new Land Rover in the last 5 years? At the end of the day they are a company that needs to make money and they make no money off people who buy 20YO TD5's and D2's.

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I haven't bought a new LandRover in the last 5 years because they have not had a single bloody thing that I would buy , Instead I spent $130,000 of my LandRover slush funds on another brand .

I'll never be spending another dollar on a petrol or Diesel vehicle of any manufacture again , Are you Listening JLR , I have cash waiting for the right 100% Electric 4x4 , and its looking a lot like a Bollinger B1 .

Dont get me wrong, I'd love to buy a new LandRover but I cant see that happening in a hurry, Not excited about Ineos either , not with their BMW ICE engines,

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

Given that there have been no ute pilots seen I'd suggest that the twin cab market is very much not the market that they're aiming at.

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Given they are on record saying they are releasing a family of defenders, what other models are likely iyo?