Won’t be retro...

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Originally Posted by ozscott

Black roofs look great. Just they absorb heat. Having said that if you have a roof rack on and touring with gear up top that takes the sting out. If shiny black that helps. Mine is dark metallic grey so not a lot better than metallic black. Cheers

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I also like the black roofs thank they make the Defenders look awesome however are they practical for the outback I'm not so sure

Hi,
A South African friend brought his vehicle out to Sydney. It had an extra roof about 60mm above the original.
It was painted white and the car was grey. Good for keeping temperatures at a reasonable level.
Cheers

I reckon the roof rack on mine, which includes a solar panel across the front, significantly cools the vehicle by shading the roof. I'm tempted to put a canvas blind over the whole roof rack to increase the shade. Or maybe plastic or rubber sheeting.

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

I also like the black roofs thank they make the Defenders look awesome however are they practical for the outback I'm not so sure

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I haven’t noticed any issues with touring the outback with a black roof.....

1. Landrovers from Series 1 had a 'tropical roof' as an option. This was another sheet of alloy about 4cm above the roof. And the standard colour for both this and the hardtop roof was Limestone, regardless of the body colour. (Special orders could be any colour, but I never heard of a black roof)

2. I first became aware of the issue while I was still at school nearly sixty years ago - my father got a new car, light grey in colour. A few months later, since his car spent the day in the sun while he was at work, and in summer it was distressingly hot when getting in after work (Sydney), he got the roof resprayed white. Made a remarkable difference to the temperature when getting in after work. So much so that his next car was white!

3. Black roofs on Landrovers were almost completely unheard of until about a decade ago. They were never offered in this country while Series and Defender Landrovers were usually work vehicles not play or status vehicles.

4. As a hangover from the sombre colouring of formal vehicles (and clothing) in Victorian times, early cars were often black, and this was probably helped by the fact that using carbon black as a pigment gave just about the only colour that was reasonably durable when exposed to UV. Most cars were black or nearly so into the 1940s, with colours becoming becoming more widespread by the fifties, but formal vehicles remained black (I think, for example of a scene I saw last night of the British PM heading for Downing St in a black limousine), and I think that this is the reason that some people seem to like black roofs. But really - isn't a Defender imitating a formal vehicle a little silly? They are supposed to be a practical vehicle, and in this country, practical means white (or nearly) roof!

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I reckon the roof rack on mine, which includes a solar panel across the front, significantly cools the vehicle by shading the roof. I'm tempted to put a canvas blind over the whole roof rack to increase the shade. Or maybe plastic or rubber sheeting.

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Was thinking similar I have twin solar panels running long ways on my roof rack, they would reflect or absorb the sun

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

1. Landrovers from Series 1 had a 'tropical roof' as an option. This was another sheet of alloy about 4cm above the roof. And the standard colour for both this and the hardtop roof was Limestone, regardless of the body colour. (Special orders could be any colour, but I never heard of a black roof)

2. I first became aware of the issue while I was still at school nearly sixty years ago - my father got a new car, light grey in colour. A few months later, since his car spent the day in the sun while he was at work, and in summer it was distressingly hot when getting in after work (Sydney), he got the roof resprayed white. Made a remarkable difference to the temperature when getting in after work. So much so that his next car was white!

3. Black roofs on Landrovers were almost completely unheard of until about a decade ago. They were never offered in this country while Series and Defender Landrovers were usually work vehicles not play or status vehicles.

4. As a hangover from the sombre colouring of formal vehicles (and clothing) in Victorian times, early cars were often black, and this was probably helped by the fact that using carbon black as a pigment gave just about the only colour that was reasonably durable when exposed to UV. Most cars were black or nearly so into the 1940s, with colours becoming becoming more widespread by the fifties, but formal vehicles remained black (I think, for example of a scene I saw last night of the British PM heading for Downing St in a black limousine), and I think that this is the reason that some people seem to like black roofs. But really - isn't a Defender imitating a formal vehicle a little silly? They are supposed to be a practical vehicle, and in this country, practical means white (or nearly) roof!

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Interesting the colour of mine is BMW carbon black

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Meh. Looks like a Commodore to me.

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Originally Posted by scarry

Great,if we were all the same ,had the same ideas,and thoughts,what a boring place this would be[biggrin]

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= Toyota Land.

(Actually...we are almost all the same in this country. Either through Toyota allegiance or dual cab ute cloning).

Critiquing vehicle brands and comparing is a central component of the DNA of this forum. It’s only when people take it personally for whatever reason that it becomes ugly. A critique or comparison between vehicle or brands is not a personal criticism otherwise.

Any dark coloured roof will always make a vehicle hotter than a light coloured roof, unless the roof is insulated. Weeds your roof would be insulated with the Mulgo Conversion?, so black not so much of an issue?