Won’t be retro...

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Originally Posted by Homestar

I don’t think anything about it will be cost competitive to be honest, it will be targeted well above the average Joe like all of their products. Premium price for a ‘premium’ vehicle.

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Yes however will it start at under the disco 5 price, probably

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Originally Posted by Homestar

No market for diesel 4x4’s in the USA where this will need to sell a lot of units. A good petrol donk is a must for the biggest market they’ll be targeting - as is an EV version as the US’s uptake of EV’s is enormous too. European markets will still want a diesel option, as will a few minnows of the marketplace (Like Australia) But petrol and EV will need to be where they concentrate getting it absolutely spot on.

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Looks like they won't have a problem then, MLA and there V8s + ingenium petrols and ingenium diesels where needed are a great combo

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Originally Posted by Zeros

New sales of Diesel and Petrol vehicles will be dead within 5 years.

Aussie company Voltra have already converted a 79 cruiser to EV.

Voltra eCruiser - 100% Electric Light Vehicle for underground mining | Voltra

Toyota LandCruiser: Voltra eCruiser, electric ute, BHP

EV 79 Series 'eCruiser' is here - Pat Callinan's 4X4 Adventures


And Toyota themselves said in 2017 that all their vehicles will be EV by 2025.

Every Toyota electrified by 2025 - motoring.com.au

It's very clear who Land Rover's competitor is for the new Defender.

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JLR will have a ton of competitors come 2025 when all the others catch up, by then JLR will be onto the next thing.

Land Rover has always been lightyears ahead of the competition in terms of offroad and on/offroad innovation.

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Originally Posted by goingbush

If they don't have Petrol and 100% Electric options they are screwed. Diesel is dead , and petrol won't be far behind .

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MLA has 100% electric capability, petrol option is also a no brainer.

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Originally Posted by weeds

I too was a skeptic, not sure I posted but have always thought it may never get into production.

The market is flooded with utes that are affordable for the average mug and mostly do what is expected of them......I doubt they will develop a produce to convince the masses to switch.

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From what I've seen already, they have already made something that will tick most peoples boxes, not all.

Safe onroad on/offroad
Very Capable on/offroad
Comfortable on/offroad
Said to be Durable and will hopefully be reasonably reliable considering the vehicle you end up with.
Instant lift kit
Reasonable wheel sizes.
Powerful
Great auto
Great for towing
Rear wheel carrier.
Long travel independant susp
No doubt good looks based on nearly everything landrover that reaches production and mules with a bit of creative thinking.
Features galore for on/offroad.
Future proof with hybrid or full electric option.
Different body options
Different levels of trim utilitarian to superlux.

I think with all the they had to deal with build the new defender, we have ended up with the best possible vehicle considering everything from a financial, safety, environmental and future proof standpoint.

Lets just hope the defender survives this whole brexit thing and doesn't get delayed further.

I personally cant wait to try one out!

They'll build it in Slovakia, along with the Discovery, to avoid the Brexit debacle, I expect.

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Originally Posted by Zeros

New sales of Diesel and Petrol vehicles will be dead within 5 years.

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Not a fact. Electrification promises are not 100% EV promises. It is highly likely there will be a good selection of diesel/petrol hybrids in 2025

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

The Jaguar I Pace has a range of about 800 kms, so if they offer that EV package in the Defender it should be a winner, if the cost is competitive.

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Where did you get this 800km stat from. I thought it was officially 470km all going well?

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Originally Posted by manic

Not a fact. Electrification promises are not 100% EV promises. It is highly likely there will be a good selection of diesel/petrol hybrids in 2025

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Correct it's not a fact til it happens. It's a prediction.

...I think it will be within 5 years, because no-one will want to buy a new petrol or diesel model with EV's on the horizon. Yes hybrids will fill the gap to some extent and will probably be the best 4x4 option initially until batteries have a better range.

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Originally Posted by Zeros

Correct it's not a fact til it happens. It's a prediction.

...I think it will be within 5 years, because no-one will want to buy a new petrol or diesel model with EV's on the horizon. Yes hybrids will fill the gap to some extent and will probably be the best 4x4 option initially until batteries have a better range.

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That MAY be the case in the cities But in the Bush I doubt that people will want to be reliant on non existing charging stations or running their gensets longer and using more diesel to charge up batteries.
I doubt that you will see any EV 4WD's out at the mustering camps in the Kimberlie's and most certainly no new fangled Defender that will cost a small fortune will be found there.