Some better spy shots at last!

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

Not sure of the intent of the emoji, but for the record the Y62 Patrol is one of the most capable 4WDS around. They weren't popular with Patrol/Nissan fans when introduced a couple of years ago - not a diesel, IFS, too many electronics (does that sound at all familiar?) - but they are winning people over now. Lots of modified ones running around, and they're regarded as being very reliable whilst being more capable than the Y61/GU etc.

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Just showing how good people are at developing uninformed preconceived ideas, and of course these same people are the ones that often get referred to as "reformed smokers" a while down the track

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Originally Posted by 1nando

The 3ltr which I don't rate only really had issues upto 2006. Post 06 nissan rectified the over boost issue that caused the 2nd and or 3rd piston to disintegrate.

The most popular y61 platform sold in the world is the 4.8ltr v8 pertol which is still sold in the middle East, south America and Africa and is know for it's strength. Nissan as a manufacturer has a reputation for drivetrain strength that not many other manufacturers have a claim to.

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I'm only just reading through this thread so I don't know exactly what had been posted later, but I'm not really hearing too many happy reports regarding the 3 ltr motor in any guise, even the old zd30 in the early 03 navara that was supposedly not as problematic as on the patrol is still failing regularly, of the few I know of, only ours hasn't had too many issues,(other than a couple gearboxes and diff problems),
I feel they are a badly designed motor that can't be fixed, leading to nissan throwing then out, which is a shame because Surely having no diesel motor has cost them badly in the market. I know locally, it has become almost mandatory for every farmer to have the "bulletproof" 200 series v8 diesel, just because it's diesel..

Does anyone else find it strange that despite all the refinements over the years, 4 cylinder 4x4s still use 10-12 litres/100km and V8’s still use 14-22litrrs/100km?

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Originally Posted by shack

I'm only just reading through this thread so I don't know exactly what had been posted later, but I'm not really hearing too many happy reports regarding the 3 ltr motor in any guise, even the old zd30 in the early 03 navara that was supposedly not as problematic as on the patrol is still failing regularly, of the few I know of, only ours hasn't had too many issues,(other than a couple gearboxes and diff problems),
I feel they are a badly designed motor that can't be fixed, leading to nissan throwing then out, which is a shame because Surely having no diesel motor has cost them badly in the market. I know locally, it has become almost mandatory for every farmer to have the "bulletproof" 200 series v8 diesel, just because it's diesel..

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Its cost them here, but not the rest of the world, sells like the 200 does here.

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Originally Posted by Vern

Its cost them here, but not the rest of the world, sells like the 200 does here.

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Yeah, and I guess all things considered, aus market is negligible

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Originally Posted by shack

I'm only just reading through this thread so I don't know exactly what had been posted later, but I'm not really hearing too many happy reports regarding the 3 ltr motor in any guise, even the old zd30 in the early 03 navara that was supposedly not as problematic as on the patrol is still failing regularly, of the few I know of, only ours hasn't had too many issues,(other than a couple gearboxes and diff problems),
I feel they are a badly designed motor that can't be fixed, leading to nissan throwing then out, which is a shame because Surely having no diesel motor has cost them badly in the market. I know locally, it has become almost mandatory for every farmer to have the "bulletproof" 200 series v8 diesel, just because it's diesel..

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People on the patrol forum and some tuners Ive heard on a few 4wd shows etc claim that with the correct mods they can be made into a reliable engine. Using a educated guess id say that the problem for nissan was that doing the NADS mods to the zd30 would leave it short of meeting emissions and therefore was not an option. There's plenty with 500,000kms plus

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Originally Posted by Zeros

Does anyone else find it strange that despite all the refinements over the years, 4 cylinder 4x4s still use 10-12 litres/100km and V8’s still use 14-22litrrs/100km?

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12.8L/100 thank you[emoji6]

May be it why a lot of companies are phasing out the diesels, far to costly amd not that efficient compared to petrols. I did here even landcruiser will be phasing out the 1vd.

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Originally Posted by Zeros

Does anyone else find it strange that despite all the refinements over the years, 4 cylinder 4x4s still use 10-12 litres/100km and V8’s still use 14-22litrrs/100km?

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I've got twice as many cylinders, I'd say almost twice as much HP as the majority of the 4 cylinder diesels and it weighs a good 500-650kg more than most of them too. Then there's the fact that it's huge. Longer and wider than a 200 in fact, it's a big car.

If your 4 cylinder made the same power your fuel use wouldn't be to far of either!

90kw vs 298kw, so i would say 3 times the power

Yup. Bigger donk = more power. But has economy really improved?

My 2014 Puma uses 1 litre per 100 km more than my 1998 Tdi.

I still find it hard to believe that a 5 litre V8 petrol will average only 12.8litres/100km.