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    Quote Originally Posted by Red90 View Post
    Nothing like complexity from a company with the worst reliability rating on the planet....
    There is a massive difference between an early p38 rangie and a 2018 rangie in terms of reliability.
    I know which one id rather take touring.

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    Most of the complaints against most car companies are trivial like phones not Bluetoothing or stuff needing resetting. Mechanical reliability issues are unusual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrangie View Post
    There is a massive difference between an early p38 rangie and a 2018 rangie in terms of reliability.
    I know which one id rather take touring.
    Go look at their reliability ratings. The are second to last in the world. What ten years and you will see what that new RR is like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Why? Electronics are very reliable now, maybe more reliable than mechanical systems.
    For example, an E-locker is less likely to get a fault than an air locker. Electric vs mechanical windows. Electronic instruments etc.
    Mick, you have been bloody lucky with your automotive electronics if that is your opinion. Since the first electronic ignition systems in the 1970's to todays all electronic singing and dancing cars I have had a right royal rooting from auto. electronics. Numerous failures requiring tilt traying to a dealership. Great fun when sailing down a highway in the middle of the night when the thing just stops many miles from help, or, stops in a six lane main road at peak hour.

    Much of the stuff fitted to new cars can be classed as selling tools so salesmen can have a ****ing contest. "Ours has this, this, this, and theirs doesn't". Many items can be classed as possibly nice to have but unnecessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrangie View Post
    Buy a suzuki haha
    What is new about this? Almost forty years ago I was selling pneumatic tyre rollers with "Air on the run" as an option. By the mid 80's this was standard on the big 21 tonne & 38 tonne Pacific rollers.
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    OK fascinating. This link Central Tire Inflation System | HowStuffWorks needs to be read in detail but it's easy to understand. The key to making this system work is the rim. QED that means nothing but an OE rim will ever be available for this system and that may, repeat may, prejudice tyre choice for us that like to drive off bitumen. As well the tyre choice, depends on rim design, may also become quite vehicle specific. For me the homily of "be careful what you wish for" applies to this piece of technology.

    Don't get me wrong I have used them in my defence career and they work really well. But the rim and vehicle type are all engineered around continuous mobility regardless of conditions so that sort of engineering requirement makes for a very different vehicle compared to something commercially available. Yes I know heavy vehicles have them but the same logic applies. You also don't do a lot of airing up and down either whereas on a typical outback trip we would carry out that process probably around 100 times depending on where and why.

    The USA market will love it as unless the duck changes this they are heading towards legislating for systems like this across the board

    Give me the choice

    Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red90 View Post
    Go look at their reliability ratings. The are second to last in the world. What ten years and you will see what that new RR is like.
    They are based on recalls per year usually, i think for such a complicated car 3 free recalls during a year is not to bad, usually carried out during service.

    Toyota Land Cruiser Recalls by Year - Toyota Problems

    Says over 2x per year for cruiser.

    I remember reading its around 3x for the new vogue, pretty fair considering how much more car you get.

    200 Cruiser has suffered from engines using oil, dirt in engine via airbox leading to limp mode, cv joints clunking. They are also very expensive when things need replacing Why I SOLD my 200 Series Twin Turbo Diesel !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbjorn View Post
    What is new about this? Almost forty years ago I was selling pneumatic tyre rollers with "Air on the run" as an option. By the mid 80's this was standard on the big 21 tonne & 38 tonne Pacific rollers.
    Did you reply to the wrong person?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobA View Post
    OK fascinating. This link Central Tire Inflation System | HowStuffWorks needs to be read in detail but it's easy to understand. The key to making this system work is the rim. QED that means nothing but an OE rim will ever be available for this system and that may, repeat may, prejudice tyre choice for us that like to drive off bitumen. As well the tyre choice, depends on rim design, may also become quite vehicle specific. For me the homily of "be careful what you wish for" applies to this piece of technology.

    Don't get me wrong I have used them in my defence career and they work really well. But the rim and vehicle type are all engineered around continuous mobility regardless of conditions so that sort of engineering requirement makes for a very different vehicle compared to something commercially available. Yes I know heavy vehicles have them but the same logic applies. You also don't do a lot of airing up and down either whereas on a typical outback trip we would carry out that process probably around 100 times depending on where and why.

    The USA market will love it as unless the duck changes this they are heading towards legislating for systems like this across the board

    Give me the choice

    Rob
    The LR one will most likely link to terrain response and and sport setting and speed and adjust pressures accordingly.
    Will prob also top up when a slow leak occurs.

    I wonder if you had full flat would it try to keep you going?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrangie View Post
    They are based on recalls per year usually, i think for such a complicated car 3 free recalls during a year is not to bad, usually carried out during service.

    Toyota Land Cruiser Recalls by Year - Toyota Problems

    Says over 2x per year for cruiser.

    I remember reading its around 3x for the new vogue, pretty fair considering how much more car you get.

    200 Cruiser has suffered from engines using oil, dirt in engine via airbox leading to limp mode, cv joints clunking. They are also very expensive when things need replacing Why I SOLD my 200 Series Twin Turbo Diesel !
    Lots of excuses. I know a lot of new owners and they are losing count at the number of breakdowns. These appear much worse than the older Land Rovers.

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