Will be Retro

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Originally Posted by scarry

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I don't think so - it's said to be part of the filming of the new 007 film and with Russian plates, it's probably been blacked out from a standard unit as a 'Russian Mob' car. Will know soon enough though, first official photo from JLR is supposed to be released tomorrow, then a video I think the day after.

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Originally Posted by Gregz

So, is that the baddies car or the goodies car ? Wonder if the winch gets used in the movie?

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Apparently bond villian was the rumour from a while back.

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Originally Posted by DrytheRain

Well, I don’t hate it, but would it have killed them to have given it a separate, tapered bonnet that just sat proud of the wing tops, maybe just as tall as that banding at the base of the window pillars? It would have shielded more of the wipers too.

The grille could stand to be deeper as well; either flatter overall, or the whole thing protruding a little.

I still think the bonnet shape is bizarre and I’ll bet that chequer plate is actually plastic. Maybe the aftermarket will come to the rescue, or it will be part of a subsequent facelift when the design of the front end has been suitably criticised by all and sundry. The overall shape looks a bit too OG Range Rover Sport as it is.

I do like what they’ve done with the headlights; modern, but the lineage is still there. The rest of the shape looks on point too, though there are a few fussy details. I’m still keen to see the rear, especially after the further leak of the Lego model the other day.

It will be interested to see specs and colours and I’m still hoping they spring a manual option on us, though I know there’s virtually no chance of that.

One final thought: I hope those front quarters are composite and easily replaceable. That ‘chequer plate’ isn’t protecting anything, so if they’re metal they’ll end up dented something terrible after the car’s first visit to the dealer workshop. It will also make designing a bar much harder if they can’t be trimmed up and the cost of repair or replacement will be eyewatering.

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You can see here where the aftermarket bullbars will gohttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b1de8d7d36.jpg

Links to original: round headlights, flat windows, flat rear, side opening rear, sloping roof, alpine windows, checker, rear spare, bonnet, capable, tough.

To me looks like a modernized version of the old one.

I haven't looked at any threads in this section before but was alerted to the pic.

All I can say is that it's ugly. Let's hope it looks better in the "flesh".

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Originally Posted by scarry

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Have a look at the roof,looks like something no quite right,particularly at the front.
Although it could be the angle of the pic.

Oh,and I don’t want to get Blackie to excited[biggrin]

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Originally Posted by loanrangie

Oohh, ahh.

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I know that beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder, but it looks much better than I expected.

I hope the rear quarter area is not blanked out ... that seems dangerous to me.

It sort of looks a bit like the Rav4 from two models ago in that pic. It seems quite narrow in that pic.

Also I still don't understand the benefits of a roo bar on a monocoque.

Same with towing too ... if one wants to keep a vehicle and tow with it, a chassis must be better.

But who knows, maybe I'd be eventually tempted. But with a cost jump from a D4 to a Defender, there's likely to lots of cash to be able to add more things to enhance and toughen up a D4 ...

I like the tyres / wheels / suspension travel / promise of toughness though. I hope they don't get greedy with price and that they provide a large price gap underneath the basic 4 cylinder D5's price. And that they sell a torquey engine option with Defender and for just a small price increase. Aim it at the towing market and they might sell heaps of them if they price it low enough. They'd need to be Ford Everest competitive on price IMO. Surely JLR would like to really compete with Ford in Australia.

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Originally Posted by ozscott

It's hardly an evolution. Revolution would better describe. But Defender of the off-road roots of the brand, in the modern setting, it seems to be.

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This is a good summary I think. Looking more likely to be the successor to my D4 in a couple of years.

Cheers,
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Originally Posted by Melbourne Park

Also I still don't understand the benefits of a roo bar on a monocoque.

Same with towing too ... if one wants to keep a vehicle and tow with it, a chassis must be better.

But who knows, maybe I'd be eventually tempted. But with a cost jump from a D4 to a Defender, there's likely to lots of cash to be able to add more things to enhance and toughen up a D4 ...

I like the tyres / wheels / suspension travel / promise of toughness though. I hope they don't get greedy with price and that they provide a large price gap underneath the basic 4 cylinder D5's price. And that they sell a torquey engine option with Defender and for just a small price increase. Aim it at the towing market and they might sell heaps of them if they price it low enough. They'd need to be Ford Everest competitive on price IMO. Surely JLR would like to really compete with Ford in Australia.

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Hmm, isnt the D5 known as one of the best tow rigs? Payload, tow weight, ball weight etc, stability, safety etc, if it towes anything like the D5, we should be fine.

Bullbar on monocoque, same benefits as body frame,(protect the body) there is just no rubber between body & frame.

Monocoque still has chassis and is probably stronger and stiffer than the current defender.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7e30ef67d4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...00d8226e79.jpg

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Originally Posted by Standard

I know that beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder, but it looks much better than I expected.

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I recon it looks great,but i also need to see it side on.

To fit a full bull bar like we need here in Aus,there will need to be a lot of ‘trimming’.

Hopefully it won’t be too difficult for the aftermarket guys.