Will be Retro

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Originally Posted by scarry

But he forgot one thing,up until the kids are a certain size/age they have to sit in booster or baby seats,which I doubt will fit in the front.[thumbsupbig]

Oh,and that roof load is STATIC so can’t be compared to other models,unless you have their static loads.Specs for roof load are not usually static,I can’t even find a static load for the D4,but it is usually three times normal roof load.

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Agreed so just pop one rear seat up.. satic was mentioned above from memory.
Static means stationary, so basically if you have your roof top tent and your rack plus 2 people sleeping you're fine.

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Originally Posted by grey_ghost

I'd be interested to see if those saddle bags pass ADR's - I thought that there is some rule about protrusions on the side of a vehicle? (I could have sworn something about this popped up recently in relation to some Perenties - and Jerry Can's on the side of them). Anyway - I can't wait to see this thing in the flesh. Some cars look crap in photos and better in the flesh, some cars look great in photos and crap in the flesh.. Only time will tell.

I am worried about BR though - what's he going to do after the big release!? [wink11]

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No different to fitting an awning or a snorkel in my opinion.
I'll be driving my defender how about you? [emoji1787] nice that you care though [emoji8]

Someones photoshop, very good effort imohttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...29e8b6f5ea.jpg

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Quick and dirty comparison against the gold standard in vehicles (the D4), the D5, the best detail I could scavange for a 2013 defender 110, and what we know about the 2020 Defender...

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Originally Posted by veebs

Attachment 154092

Quick and dirty comparison against the gold standard in vehicles (the D4), the D5, the best detail I could scavange for a 2013 defender 110, and what we know about the 2020 Defender...

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Thanks!
Im sure you know as per D5 air/coil affects angles and wading
Seat number affects payload

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Someones photoshop, very good effort imohttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...29e8b6f5ea.jpg

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What about a big set of swinging cow testicles and donkey dick windscreen wipers. Looks like LR designers too much glass bbq [bawl]:bat:

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Thanks!
Im sure you know as per D5 air/coil affects angles and wading
Seat number affects payload

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Yeah, got that, and the D5 angles may be in 'extended offroad' mode, it isn't clear from the detail. The number of seats i listed is 'seats you can sit in with this amount of volume', rather than total installed seats in the car ;)

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Originally Posted by JimR

What about a big set of swinging cow **** and donkey **** windscreen wipers. Looks like LR designers too much glass bbq [bawl]:bat:

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...0eca7402e2.jpg

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

No different to fitting an awning or a snorkel in my opinion.
I'll be driving my defender how about you? [emoji1787] nice that you care though [emoji8]

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I am hoping to purchase a 90 - when they are released next year. I am not silly enough to place an order - until I have seen it, driven it and looked at the specification sheets and options. I can't wait for some real facts.

In the meantime - I will continue to drive my FFR, 101, Range Rover Classic, Discovery 1, Freelander 1, Series 2 88, Series 2 109, etc. [thumbsupbig]

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Originally Posted by veebs

Attachment 154092

Quick and dirty comparison against the gold standard in vehicles (the D4), the D5, the best detail I could scavange for a 2013 defender 110, and what we know about the 2020 Defender...

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Interesting.
Isn't the 110 Defender wagon payload 1044kg, or have I got that wrong?

https://topix.landrover.jlrext.com/t...da49d367/en_GB

Edit: Using those topix numbers, for a standard no options 110 wagon I get 994kg and for a HD 110 wagon I get 1444kg. Is that correct?