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  1. #581
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBD4 View Post
    Correct! You have it.
    I never said Toyota was better! I said they have a perceived reputation for reliabilty that only they have!

    And if you can't truthfully admit that LR has struggled with their perception of reliabilty then I will stop paying for my subscription and leave the forum! I can think of better ways to spend $100!

    I'm pi$$ed off now cause this is ridiculous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrangie View Post
    Some more Slovakia production shots.
    That thermo fan is maaaasive!
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    Good stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrangie View Post
    I would imagine similar to D5 pricing
    Go for the petrol 110,and tick a couple of boxes,and you are well and truely in D5 territory.

    That thermo fan reminds me of the one in the VN/VP dunny dore,it was huge as well.

    Looking at all these 110 pics,which are great,it sort of looks smallish.Maybe i am completely wrong,i know we can look at specs,but it seems sort of smallish.No one on here has actually seen one in the flesh,so it will be really interesting when someone does.

    As for brand bashing,i was thinking everyone has lately been very civil,and respectful, about each others comments and thoughts,which is good to see.Some are just pointing out facts.

    All discussion somewhere near on topic is healthy for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1nando View Post
    I never said Toyota was better! I said they have a perceived reputation for reliabilty that only they have!

    And if you can't truthfully admit that LR has struggled with their perception of reliabilty then I will stop paying for my subscription and leave the forum! I can think of better ways to spend $100!

    I'm pi$$ed off now cause this is ridiculous!
    I understand where you're coming from but I am not suggesting you did. As I said earlier I actually agree with what you were saying in that post and have no issue with how you said it.

    I simply made a request to bring the discussion back to the new defender and leave the other brands out of it and that was to everyone.

    Looking back I think I could have worded it better and I apologise to everyone for the upset caused.

    All, It seems the consensus is that the intervention was premature so, On that basis lets keep it running but please don't let the discussion revert to an endless loop of brand bashing that has caused issues in the past(Note: not saying that has happened here).
    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by johntins View Post
    Nonsense. I have followed, with great interest, this thread from its inception. If it was, as you say, flawed earlier on, then why kill it now, rather than then?

    I grasp that emotions can cause Mod involvement ( I have a history, as you no doubt know ). but this thread was going fine until you swooped in. If there was a problem in the past, maybe you should have intervened then????

    I have had conversation with Mods re things we, as ordinary members who pay for access, are not privy to. Maybe it's time for the umpires to start conversing with the players as to the rules they are enforcing. Keeping us in the dark just ****es us off. But, you know that, right?
    We've already talked via PM but thought I should respond to this too out of courtesy so people don't think I'm leaving you hanging..

    ...In this instance it was not a matter of applying a rule. It was about assessing the potential for a problem to arise based on what has happened previously and wanting to avoid it happening again.

    I think I've been open about it, no secret rule and happy to cop it sweet for getting it wrong....i.e. going too early.

    Right, moving right along now, about that Defender.....
    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBD4 View Post
    We've already talked via PM but thought I should respond to this too out of courtesy so people don't think I'm leaving you hanging..

    ...In this instance it was not a matter of applying a rule. It was about assessing the potential for a problem to arise based on what has happened previously and wanting to avoid it happening again.

    I think I've been open about it, no secret rule and happy to cop it sweet for getting it wrong....i.e. going too early.

    Right, moving right along now, about that Defender.....
    So, can we take that hat off for a bit longer? You know, let it go for a bit, pop in when you think it's OTT? Works for me.
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    Passion for the brand / model only exists in comparison to other brands / models.

    Without good natured discussion / debate about merits for and against, pros and cons in relation to other vehicles, half of this forum wouldnít exist.

    The more perspectives on the new Defender the better IMO. Itís been a long time coming!

    Is it any good? Well thatís in the eye of the beholder, but debating whether itís any good in comparison with other brands /vehicles is how we all make up our minds.

    For the record, I reckon it looks pretty darn good and better than any other 4x4 wagon on the market in the $70-$100k segment. But thatís debatable (in a good way!).

    Is it better than the outgoing Defender? Well thatís debatable too (in a good way!).

    Cheers all, enjoying the discussion and the passion in all directions.

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    Thanks for posting the production pics blackrangie.

    It looks even more like a proper Defender as just the skin!

    4BDE3A40-DBA7-4E17-BD7C-75C8C83F2187.jpg

    Interesting to see it above the D5 skin on the rack too...same size, different function? Hmm me thinks the D5ís run is about to come to a sad end. Surely Defender is the new D4 / new Defender rolled into one.

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    If you look on the roads the biggest market for the lc200 Y62 are grey nomads , bloke st work just bought an LC then spent a small fortune on a gvm upgrade so he can tow his block of flats in retirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loanrangie View Post
    If you look on the roads the biggest market for the lc200 Y62 are grey nomads , bloke st work just bought an LC then spent a small fortune on a gvm upgrade so he can tow his block of flats in retirement.
    The new Defender with its towing capacity ...ooh and the hybrid, would eat them for breakfast...grey nomads love saving fuel.

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