The New Defender: Diesel vs Petrol

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Originally Posted by scarry

Particularly this Ingenium petrol 6.

Its direct injected,as most are,but its also turbo and supercharged,so seems highly complicated.

Coupled with a small fuel tank,not much of a tug.

Its not an engine design like,for example,the V8 in the Y62.

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DIG today is not an issue; some early DIG engines had potential intake valve carbon build up issues.
Vehciles like the y62 have been around for 10 plus years and there is no reported valve deposit issue. None! Unlike modern diesel engines with egrs and all the other crap on them.

In my opinion there is nothing simpler today then a NA v8 petrol on the market. Emphasis on me referring to engines available today. Not old school diesels which are worlds apart from today's.

I will eventually buy this new defender with the petrol engine however I do agree that it is a extremely complicated engine. But the diesels look just as bad if you ask me. I would have preferred a simple turbo straight six pertol without all the BS!

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Originally Posted by Slunnie

Why do you think Diesels are more complex than Petrols? I don't think they have anything thats too different between them these days.

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It is the emission controls that I don’t like on the modern diesels. To get them to burn clean and soot free so they are acceptable in the cities seems to take a lot more effort but I do admit I am coming from a point of ignorance as the technical details on the engines is very limited at present.

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Originally Posted by scarry

Particularly this Ingenium petrol 6.

Its direct injected,as most are,but its also turbo and supercharged,so seems highly complicated.

Coupled with a small fuel tank,not much of a tug.

Its not an engine design like,for example,the V8 in the Y62.

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Imagine a new defender with the Y62 donk! I think that would be pretty perfect.

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Originally Posted by Disco-tastic

Imagine a new defender with the Y62 donk! I think that would be pretty perfect.

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It's a shame the limited edition v8 was only made right at the end as a one off.

400hp in a 90 sounds just my cup of tea!
Pickles.

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Originally Posted by 1nando

Out of curiosity how heavy is your van, what is towing it and what economy are you getting?

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OK
Camper is an AOR + which comes in at 2500kg. We're normally around the 2450kg mark fully loaded

Towing with a MY15 TDV6

Economy.
Bitumen normally around the speed limit is an average of 15.7l per 100km. In really bad conditions like 60kph+ headwinds we can hit low 20's. We always have a fully roof platform for remote travel
Off bitumen. Varies depending on conditions but our planning figure/average is 18l per 100km

These figures have not varied outside of their normal range for the last tow years and 50,000km all of which has been towing

We spend 3-5 months each year travelling remotely

Rob

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Originally Posted by scarry

Maybe aftermarket,if not, it won’t be in my driveway.
Some say run a 20” and go oversize,to get more sidewall,but that’s not what I want to do.

The diesels in my opinion are a bit lacking,the vehicle will be almost as heavy as my D4.

And going by D5 reports,with same Diesel engine,fuel economy not fantastic.
In fact it’s very similar to a late model D4,8apeed,with a heap less power and torque.

The smaller diesel will probably not sell well and be dropped,as happened with D5.

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D5 came with 19s and 18s fitted aftermarket.

We just have to ask LR what equivalent model d5 the straight 6 petrol brakes are.

Let us know

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Originally Posted by scarry

Particularly this Ingenium petrol 6.

Its direct injected,as most are,but its also turbo and supercharged,so seems highly complicated.

Coupled with a small fuel tank,not much of a tug.

Its not an engine design like,for example,the V8 in the Y62.

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90L is not small imo to be fair for a stock tank.

750km range @ 12L/100

Aftermarket tanks are already avail for D5

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Originally Posted by Disco-tastic

Imagine a new defender with the Y62 donk! I think that would be pretty perfect.

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Imo they will do an svx version with bmw v8, if and when they do, ill sell and buy if fuel economy is reasonable.

Having said that the straight 6 is almost up there in v8 land, im sure it will be reasonably reliable considering their testing, if not we have warranty and au consumer guarantee.

I am waiting for the rumoured all electric version. I reckon that will be a cracker.