Land Rover doesn't understand Australia - no ute !

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Originally Posted by johntins

No. Apart from the Nissan F-Alpha platform, and some driveline stuff in some models, it's a different vehicle, and it's made in Spain.

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By some driveline stuff, you mean the entire driveline in the volume selling 4 cylinder versions?
Doesn't really matter as A: they are killing it off and B: it is massively overpriced garbage (yes, I have driven one quite a bit).

There is so much miss information on this thread it is not funny.

JLR UK has not ruled out a ute.

The Australian market is very important to Land Rover and they are on record as saying as such and have even gone to the effort of providing a bull bar for our market where they are not for any other market to my knowledge.

We also get the diesel d240 where America with much greater potential sales numbers does not.

We also get the slide in Hayman Reese style tow hitch.

JLR reliability is comparable to Toyota now in markets that are similar to ours, not that saying anything with the current state of Toyota reliability.

And a ute can be made from a monocoque and has been made in the past, some of Australia's most successful sellers have been monocoque utes.

You think American people want that puny little diesel that landrover is offering? When you can get over 6 litres of turbo charged diesel goodness in other 4wd.[emoji16]

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Originally Posted by SPROVER

You think American people want that puny little diesel that landrover is offering? When you can get over 6 litres of turbo charged diesel goodness in other 4wd.[emoji16]

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only milk comes in 2l packages [bigwhistle]

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Originally Posted by SPROVER

You think American people want that puny little diesel that landrover is offering? When you can get over 6 litres of turbo charged diesel goodness in other 4wd.[emoji16]

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On the US forums yes they do, no doubt they will get the 3L Diesel next year.

Thinking that every American is a huge V8 Diesel loving person is a huge generalisation.. but I do admit the culture is more biased towards big V8s.

They need 7L+ Turbocharged V8deseils to move them as they weight twice as much as the new defender and cost twice as much to run.

It's important when reading articles to look for on record comments, also are they unnamed sources? And what parts of the article are actually just factless opinion.

I focus only on the on record comments quoted.

Land Rover Defender ute “being considered,” could partner up
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When questioned further if head office was paying attention to the potential gold mine that is the Australian ute market - and also retaining the ute bodystyle the Defender enjoyed in the previous-generation's 67-years of service - Cameron said that indeed a ute was in consideration.
“It is interesting at the moment, it is being considered, definitely.”

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Defender Ute! Land Rover considering Ford Ranger rival - Car News | CarsGuide
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“We’re getting that feedback and obviously there are markets that indeed are asking about the potential for a pick-up or that kind of derivative of one of our products in the future,” he said.
“We are permanently looking at and evaluating opportunities. Let’s first launch the*Defender. And we’re taking on that feedback and we’re trying to evaluate. In the end it has to be a viable business case for us as well, but we understand the demand,” he said.

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

On the US forums yes they do, no doubt they will get the 3L Diesel next year.

Thinking that every American is a huge V8 Diesel loving person is a huge generalisation.. but I do admit the culture is more biased towards big V8s.

They need 7L+ Turbocharged V8deseils to move them as they weight twice as much as the new defender and cost twice as much to run.

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And in the snow states they have to push through snow drifts in winter and deep mud in the thaw. High ground clearance, lots of power and big tyres are the formula. Also farmers and hunters like to carry a snowmobile, trike or quad in the back. Fuel is cheap in the USA compared with the rest of the world even though Yanks bitch about the price of gas. If you slide off the icy road into a snowbank it helps to have a bit of metal around you. Further, there are an awful lot of very big Yanks who do not fit well in vehicles designed for Asian and Mediterranean dwarfs.

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

There is so much miss information on this thread it is not funny.

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Its called conjecture not misinformation - surprising about that, afterall it is a forum.

Garry

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Originally Posted by 101RRS

Its called conjecture not misinformation - surprising about that, afterall it is a forum.

Garry

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When its stated as fact, its misinformation imo.

Infact the first article in this thread started it all, very factless.

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Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

*I dont subscribe to the protecting intellectual property thing as once you have purchased a product, such as a car or a computer, you actually have everything there. All the parts both electronic and mechanical can all be worked out, sure it can be a long draw out pain in the arse, but it can be done.

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Couldn't agree more. There is now a reasonably vocal "right to repair" movement in the US, which is mostly aimed at car companies, and Apple, and Samsung ( strangely, Google tech is quite easy to repair for indies). I expect that it will succeed eventually through legislation, But these companies, well Apple does in particular, carry a mighty big stick. FWIW, Apple has at last been releasing repair guides and proprietary parts to repairers in the US. Not here, though.

I watch many repairers in the US online, and the number of OBD devices they need ( talking general repairers here ) is ridiculous.

Of course, LR is not obliged ( currently ) to provide any info to you, me or anyone else. What is it in the New Deefer? 86 computers? Can't see a Nanocom dealing with those.