The New Defender

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Happy with mods call, it has been done to death for those following for the last year on here. All good.

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Pricing only became apparent yesterday... how has it been done to death? That's what we were discussing.

Forums are places for discussion, without discussion there is no point in being a member.

Am I missing something?

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Originally Posted by johntins

Huh?? What brought that on?? The new Defender is probably the most anticipated and discussed topic since the Old Defender was slated to be discontinued. What in this thread offended you? Why is talking about stuff for 18 months 'off topic'?

People here are still talking about design features of the 1948 S1. Has that been done to death? Some clarification please. Or some Mod pool talking.

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John, you obviously have not followed the discussions from the very beginning. This has been discussed many times often resulting people being awarded points due to a rapid escalation of peoples emotions. It's also resulted in threads and entire the entire L660/L663 subforum being locked. It has cause the mod team quite a bit of angst in the past which we are determined to avoid in the future. I hope you can appreciate that there is often more to these circumstances than what may be apparent to you.

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Originally Posted by 1nando

I've brought up other brands to highlight peoples perception and how that may affect sales as a result of price point. At the end of the day this new defender is in a segment that has to compete with other brands so I'm not sure how it isn't relevant to the topic we were discussing (civilly may I add)

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Nando, it's all good. Everyone has absolutely been civil. Just wanting to bring back on track as per response to John.

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Happy with mods call, it has been done to death for those following for the last year on here. All good.

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Fine. Do you consider, say, the D2 thread "done to death"?

I'm not going at you, but just what is "done to death". There are entire threads and forums on here that relate to cars made before I was born. All I ask for is consistency. If the New Defender thread is done to death, then surely the SLOW thread needs to be closed, amongst very many others.

I feel an overreaction here. I'd like a mod to tell me I'm wrong.

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Originally Posted by 1nando

Pricing only became apparent yesterday... how has it been done to death? That's what we were discussing.

Forums are places for discussion, without discussion there is no point in being a member.

Am I missing something?

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Just the whole toyota is better, landrover is unreliable thing, no its not etc etc..its been done..pricing is not the issue [emoji1417].

Anyways lets move on

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Just the whole toyota is better, landrover is unreliable thing, no its not etc etc..its been done..pricing is not the issue [emoji1417].

Anyways lets move on

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Mate for the record I don't much appreciate many Toyota owners as many have 2 heads, much like some nissan owners. In saying that people can choose to be blind or stupid but the reality is that Toyota has a reputation that ALL manufacturers wish they had. That's a factual point not my opinion, it doesn't mean I'm bagging LR!

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Just the whole toyota is better, landrover is unreliable thing, no its not etc etc..its been done..pricing is not the issue [emoji1417].

Anyways lets move on

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Correct! You have it.

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Originally Posted by 1nando

Mate for the record I don't much appreciate many Toyota owners as many have 2 heads, much like some nissan owners. In saying that people can choose to be blind or stupid but the reality is that Toyota has a reputation that ALL manufacturers wish they had. That's a factual point not my opinion, it doesn't mean I'm bagging LR!

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For the record, I agree with much of what you said. It was not directed at any one in particular.

Image Packs | Land Rover Homepage USA

Incredible amount of image packs here, best on desktop or on phone if you have an unzipper app.

Filter by new defender

My pick is the what will be avail to upgrade the extras packs much of which is no where to be seen on the AU website yet.

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Originally Posted by SBD4

John, you obviously have not followed the discussions from the very beginning. This has been discussed many times often resulting people being awarded points due to a rapid escalation of peoples emotions. It's also resulted in threads and entire the entire L660/L663 subforum being locked. It has cause the mod team quite a bit of angst in the past which we are determined to avoid in the future. I hope you can appreciate that there is often more to these circumstances than what may be apparent to you.

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Nonsense. I have followed, with great interest, this thread from its inception. If it was, as you say, flawed earlier on, then why kill it now, rather than then?

I grasp that emotions can cause Mod involvement ( I have a history, as you no doubt know ). but this thread was going fine until you swooped in. If there was a problem in the past, maybe you should have intervened then????

I have had conversation with Mods re things we, as ordinary members who pay for access, are not privy to. Maybe it's time for the umpires to start conversing with the players as to the rules they are enforcing. Keeping us in the dark just ****es us off. But, you know that, right?

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Originally Posted by 1nando

Mate for the record I don't much appreciate many Toyota owners as many have 2 heads, much like some nissan owners. In saying that people can choose to be blind or stupid but the reality is that Toyota has a reputation that ALL manufacturers wish they had. That's a factual point not my opinion, it doesn't mean I'm bagging LR!

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From my point of view you weren't bagging landrover just pointing out what the majority of people think about Toyota and landrover in general. And then BR provided us with a table of facts on how bad Landrover still are when it comes to other manufacturers [emoji16]