I think the 90 in base form isn't bad value if you only need that size vehicle. For my use I would need at least the 110 and realistically the 130 - but their prices put them at a price point that I don't think is good value. Cheers
54 Series 1 86
61 Series 2 109 - Club Rego
76 2 Door Range Rover
78 101 Forward Control - Club Rego
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90 4 Door Range Rover - Club Rego
93 Discovery 1 200 Tdi - Club Rego
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I think the 90 in base form isn't bad value if you only need that size vehicle. For my use I would need at least the 110 and realistically the 130 - but their prices put them at a price point that I don't think is good value. Cheers
On FB there are a few new Defender groups.
The majority of owners are very happy.
But a few are repointing issues - mainly sat-nav, blue tooth pairing and a-pillar noises.
It’s a pity considering the price point...
54 Series 1 86
61 Series 2 109 - Club Rego
76 2 Door Range Rover
78 101 Forward Control - Club Rego
88 Perentie FFR - Club Rego
90 4 Door Range Rover - Club Rego
93 Discovery 1 200 Tdi - Club Rego
98 Freelander 1 - Full Rego
22 Defedner 90 - Full rego
From what I’ve read about the new defender, and it’s key features, there isn’t a direct competitor by another maker. I’m talking about all key features in a vehicle:
• power/torque similar
• size, passenger capacity, rear passenger space, cargo space
• permanent 4WD as standard mode, rather than option mode
• true 8 speed auto with dual transfer box
• not leaf spring suspension
• range.
I will add these as highly desirable features as highly desirable rather than a key feature, as these don’t feature on many 4WD vehicles:
• pre-programmed terrain settings
• air suspension, or other variable height.
Other features of other makes against the defender is (updated):
• regional dealer support
• 5 year manufacturer warranty (not through 3rd party).
L322 tdv8 poverty pack - wow
Perentie 110 wagon ARN 49-107 (probably selling) turbo, p/steer, RFSV front axle/trutrack, HF, gullwing windows, double jerrys etc.
Perentie 110 wagon ARN 48-699 another project
Track Trailer ARN 200-117
REMLR # 137
Yes but the same argument could be made for every new model LR have brought out. Yet they still don't offer a decent warranty and on a vehicle that complex and given LR's history for me money they are asking is crazy. Cheers
L322 tdv8 poverty pack - wow
Perentie 110 wagon ARN 49-107 (probably selling) turbo, p/steer, RFSV front axle/trutrack, HF, gullwing windows, double jerrys etc.
Perentie 110 wagon ARN 48-699 another project
Track Trailer ARN 200-117
REMLR # 137
It will be interesting to see prices of the new 300s when eventually released and noting steady increase in prices of other new vehicles it will be no surprise if it takes another jump up.
Fact is new vehicle investment has to be recovered and invariably new vehicles have new features/tech. Eg for safety..which compared to say a new Defender is catch up in many regards. Omg..a rear locker in DMax ..6k increase thanks ...omg hill decent control in new Hilux...really...and paid pundits like Ronny Dahl make out these features are new. ..fantastic and unique to the sponsor.
At least Graham of 4wd247 had the decency to point out LRs innovations and brilliant capabilities years ago.
Unfortunately we are being taken backwards wrt some new vehicle attributes..a sort of start again eg with 4x4 dual cabs which compared to a 20yo Patrol or Disco are crap off road. But the masses are sheep so don't know any better and there's lots of money in modifying junk. Look at the average 70s/ Prado/Cruiser spend at ARB said to be over 10k.
Would I buy a new Defender..no not yet because our D4SC is so bloody good at everything we need it do. It still ****s on any other brand current offerings and its 5 years old. In say 3 years time...yes I will cause I suspect like the D4 the new Defender will be the best car for us.
Rhonny's new Hilux is not a sponsorship vehicle.
You must not have driven a new dual cab with all the fruit offroad. They are very competent. It is easy to say well with leaf sprung rear and coil IFS they can't be much good but often they are very good even in stock form. And as for carrying heavy loads down low offroad they excel.
Cheers
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