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    Quote Originally Posted by Red90 View Post
    That is not apples to apples. Most other brands build vehicles that are reliable and do not fail even with new models.
    You must live in the land of fairies where all is good - of other brands build new vehicles that fail and have issues - look at Toyota Class action here on failures of new vehicles - law suits and prosecutions on Ford and VW. Both had record fines for their poor quality vehicles - and poor quality responses.
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    The facts are clear. Land Rover has been at the bottom of all reliability rating for a decade or more. Anyone suggesting otherwise does not believe in reality.

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    But you were not talking about overall reliability - you said "Most other brands build vehicles that are reliable and do not fail even with new models." Which is clearly not so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    It really is unbelievable,isn’t it?

    After all the reliability surveys,reputation over the years,it’s still going on?

    Other manufacturers have these problems sorted,but some seem to continue with them.

    I have had LR’s for the last 21 yrs,and run a fleet of Jap/Thailand commercial vehicles for the last 30 yrs,and from my experience,there is just no comparison in the reliability,service costs,fit and finish,etc,etc,between the two.

    Sure,the D4,which was mainly Ford,was better,but it still isn’t up to the standard of others on the market.

    This is one reason we have replaced the D4 with another brand.
    Yes,you guessed it,the one the sheep buy.
    After looking around for a long time,and wanting a large 4WD wagon,new,and suited us,there was no other option.

    You bought one that had previously been owned by Sheep? Ooooooooo,Yucky.

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    nothings changed.....this is what you want , this is what you get

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    My D2 was excellent in its warranty period..
    Certainly not good out of the warranty period in all honesty. My current Mazda is at 170,000 and ZERO issues. Lots of tech in that vehicle too. My Mitsu has only done 21,000 and lots of tech. No issues and doubt it will have any in warranty.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    You bought one that had previously been owned by Sheep? Ooooooooo,Yucky.
    I just hope it is more reliable and obedient than a sheep
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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    But you were not talking about overall reliability - you said "Most other brands build vehicles that are reliable and do not fail even with new models." Which is clearly not so.
    Umm. Yes, it is a fact. Land Rover is near the bottom of all reliability ratings. Thus, most other manufacturers are better. Try not to be blinded but your brand loyalty and look at it from a detached viewpoint. Brand blindless is a horrible illness.

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    having owned about 20 cars in the last 10 years, i would place land rover at the bottom for reliability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red90 View Post
    Umm. Yes, it is a fact. Land Rover is near the bottom of all reliability ratings. Thus, most other manufacturers are better.
    Correct.
    But that's not what you originally said is it?

    You claimed that LR is the only manufacturer that has issues with new models.
    You didn't say "therefore other manufacturers are better", you said "other manufacturers have no issues at all".

    Which is clearly bollocks.

    As you say, LR is regularly at the bottom of the likes of JD Power surveys. This cannot be disputed (although you could argue the relevance of the survey) and there are enough anecdotes/stories/posts on here to suggest "no smoke without fire".

    But to suggest that LR is the ONLY car manufacturer that has any issues at all is being somewhat blind.....
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