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    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post
    No its not, its only hard on cv's if yours is the supercharged version and you drive it like you stole it.
    But most are, and most do.

    Don't get me wrong, I think it's an awesome vehicle. My words were: HARD on the CVs if you test them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    But most are, and most do.

    Don't get me wrong, I think it's an awesome vehicle. My words were: HARD on the CVs if you test them.
    540hp does that.
    But, in my time of being on the y62 pages and a y62 owner, only a handful of them have had cv issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keydien View Post
    I'm considering a new Defender as my next vehicle and have been playing around in the builder on the LR website. I'll be using the car for a mix of daily commuting but also actually taking it off-road and camping primarily in the Vic high country so i don't want something super posh inside.

    I've specced out a 'Standard' and an 'S' P300 to exactly the same features (screen, lights, rear diff, sound system etc). The only difference between them is the seating, where the 'S' comes with the 12-way powered and leather/textile seats, whereas the Standard comes with 8-way powered full fabric seats.

    Are there any other differences i'm missing? I've gone through the specs and i can't see anything else.

    The price difference sits at close to $7k ($96,511 vs $89,628 driveaway). Surely the seats can't account for an extra $7k?
    You get some differences in regards to display etc.
    My tip; print out the AUS spec guide and highlight your choices. But make sure it is the latest spec sheet (download from LR AUS), specific for Australia as they are different from lets say UK ones. Having a LR with upgraded headlights, I highly suggest you consider this option too as it makes a massive difference. The centre fridge is another great option too on long trips.
    Enjoy! m

    PS: Just ignore advice from people who never will buy a new one. Or actually anything new...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arapiles View Post
    No, I don't think so, but as a test I just ran the absolute base model - Defender / D200 / 5 seats / cloth / steel wheels - and it came in at $92,314 drive away. Add even just 7 seats to that, with rear aircon and you're already at $100k. And that's without even a tow bar ... or heated seats .... For that money you'd be in a Ti-L Patrol that is absolutely fully equipped, including a built-in fridge and rear DVD screens. The Defender would probably go further off road, but only because of the EAS.
    Not sure what you were doing then. The one i specced out is as follows:

    Defender 110 Standard P300
    Upgraded 18" satin dark grey alloys (not steelies)
    Upgraded Full LED headlights with signature DRL and foglights
    Upgraded Meridian sound system
    Upgraded Full digital dash
    Electronic locking rear diff

    Total: $88,122 drive away at full RRP. That's $3k more than a Patrol Ti, and $13k less than a Ti-L - for a much better equipped, newer, better tech, safer, more fuel efficient car.

    The Patrol seems like a horrible deal in comparison to be honest. But get whatever makes you happy.



    Quote Originally Posted by 100inch View Post
    You get some differences in regards to display etc.
    My tip; print out the AUS spec guide and highlight your choices. But make sure it is the latest spec sheet (download from LR AUS), specific for Australia as they are different from lets say UK ones. Having a LR with upgraded headlights, I highly suggest you consider this option too as it makes a massive difference. The centre fridge is another great option too on long trips.
    Enjoy! m

    PS: Just ignore advice from people who never will buy a new one. Or actually anything new...
    Thanks - will do. I got the feeling that there may have been some armchair critics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keydien View Post
    Not sure what you were doing then. The one i specced out is as follows:

    Defender 110 Standard P300
    Upgraded 18" satin dark grey alloys (not steelies)
    Upgraded Full LED headlights with signature DRL and foglights
    Upgraded Meridian sound system
    Upgraded Full digital dash
    Electronic locking rear diff

    Total: $88,122 drive away at full RRP. That's $3k more than a Patrol Ti, and $13k less than a Ti-L - for a much better equipped, newer, better tech, safer, more fuel efficient car.

    The Patrol seems like a horrible deal in comparison to be honest. But get whatever makes you happy.





    Thanks - will do. I got the feeling that there may have been some armchair critics.
    Don't know what you are doing, but the ti is going for between $68-$75k ti-l, $83-$92k.
    Thats what people are paying depending on the state they live in, no one is paying rrp, unless they aren't that bright. Guessing theres no haggle room on the defender, you pay what they say?

    Also 18" alloys standard
    Diff lock standard
    298kw standard New Build - 'Standard' vs 'S' Pricing and features.

    I really wanted to trade ours in on the defender, it would have to be the p400, i have a thirst for petro powe now, but the sheer values for money and size and room, i just can't do it.
    Defender does look way cooler thoughNew Build - 'Standard' vs 'S' Pricing and features

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keydien View Post
    Not sure what you were doing then. The one i specced out is as follows:

    Defender 110 Standard P300
    Upgraded 18" satin dark grey alloys (not steelies)
    Upgraded Full LED headlights with signature DRL and foglights
    Upgraded Meridian sound system
    Upgraded Full digital dash
    Electronic locking rear diff

    Total: $88,122 drive away at full RRP. That's $3k more than a Patrol Ti, and $13k less than a Ti-L - for a much better equipped, newer, better tech, safer, more fuel efficient car.

    The Patrol seems like a horrible deal in comparison to be honest. But get whatever makes you happy.





    Thanks - will do. I got the feeling that there may have been some armchair critics.

    I think that you missed that the base diesel engine starts at $92 k.

    The base Defenders are significantly less well equipped than the Patrol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 100inch View Post

    PS: Just ignore advice from people who never will buy a new one. Or actually anything new...

    The truth is that the Defender is premium priced and way more than most current Defender owners would be prepared to spend - check the comments about that on this very website.

    In relation to buying new cars, a management consultant I worked with a few years back was of the view that it was insane to spend money on an immediately depreciating asset, and he'd never done so. And I've heard the same thing from accountants. I know a number of very successful lawyers who only ever buy and drive second-hand cars, and I'm talking about people with seven figure incomes. Some mates I played rugby with used to drive absolutely crap cars, and their families owned big chunks of the Western District. So I'd suggest that you not judge a persons wealth by what they're driving.

    Edit: oh, and some friends of ours just dropped $6m+ on a house, which they're also renovating, and last time I checked they were driving an old Japanese car.

    Edit: and my mate who owns a hedge fund (you know, couple of billion under management, gets quoted in the international financial press, that kind of thing) doesn't own a car at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 100inch View Post
    You get some differences in regards to display etc.
    My tip; print out the AUS spec guide and highlight your choices. But make sure it is the latest spec sheet (download from LR AUS), specific for Australia as they are different from lets say UK ones. Having a LR with upgraded headlights, I highly suggest you consider this option too as it makes a massive difference. The centre fridge is another great option too on long trips.
    Enjoy! m

    PS: Just ignore advice from people who never will buy a new one. Or actually anything new...
    Or just ignore advice from people who judge the opinions of others based on their buying choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arapiles View Post
    The truth is that the Defender is premium priced and way more than most current Defender owners would be prepared to spend - check the comments about that on this very website.

    In relation to buying new cars, a management consultant I worked with a few years back was of the view that it was insane to spend money on an immediately depreciating asset, and he'd never done so. And I've heard the same thing from accountants. I know a number of very successful lawyers who only ever buy and drive second-hand cars, and I'm talking about people with seven figure incomes. Some mates I played rugby with used to drive absolutely crap cars, and their families owned big chunks of the Western District. So I'd suggest that you not judge a persons wealth by what they're driving.

    Edit: oh, and some friends of ours just dropped $6m+ on a house, which they're also renovating, and last time I checked they were driving an old Japanese car.

    Edit: and my mate who owns a hedge fund (you know, couple of billion under management, gets quoted in the international financial press, that kind of thing) doesn't own a car at all.
    Coooool! And do you look at your mates picture on daily basis? Just asking for a friend.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keydien View Post

    The Patrol seems like a horrible deal in comparison to be honest. But get whatever makes you happy.
    .
    Not really,

    The Patrol is much larger,particularly in the rear cargo area,and has a reputation for being more reliable and having way better resale than any modern LR product.


    Sure itís not the latest and greatest,has 85 PCB,s,but thatís not what everyone wants,even though they can easily afford it.



    Not taking sides,it just the facts.
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