A little bit of bother but showing optimism

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Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

Once again the issues with the new Defender screams of poor build quality and poor quality components not the hi-tech level. Jaguar Land Rover make this choice when building a vehicle.

To be fair, the owner sounds like a bit of a dick saying "so my car had to be dragged onto the truck with the wheels locked up, trashing my new and very expensive tyres, burning rubber and ruining my brake pads" What a bull**** statement, no you wont trash your tyres or brakes just skull dragging it up a tilt tray.

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Yes yes, but it also begs the question as to how competent are the respective LR Dealers who do the diagnosis' and subsequent repairs?
They seem to have the enviable ([bigwhistle]) ability to introduce new problems that never existed when the car was taken to them. Hence the comments that different warning lights appear after collecting the vehicle from the Dealer after the repairs.....
That was very much the case in that USA episode on U-tube some months ago!

It appears the Owners Manual was not consulted re park brake disconnect? As they say... "if all else fails, read the instructions..." [bigwhistle]

The latest on the other forum is that it was just the multi function belt coming off and stopping the water pump which caused overheat etc etc.
I wonder if it was the deep water that caused that.
One would think that should be rather obvious to the driver .
Regards PhilipA

I admire the person in the post who bought the vehicle. They bought a vehicle to fulfill a specific role. Land Rover were selling a vehicle which they said was designed with this purpose in mind. The vehicle was purchased and the adventure put in motion. There will be the odd teething problem with a new model and overlanding will throw up it's own challenges which the driver and vehicle will combine to surmount.
What the design team did not account for in the design specification is the ability of the owner to aid the vehicle when things go awry. Older vehicles would let the owner nurse them and cajole them into making progress should an issue arise unless off course it was a major gearbox removal issue or something of that ilk. Newer vehicles seem to have a built in desire to shun any attempt to get them moving again should some issue arise. The ECU seems to want the main dealer to give it the reassuring feeling of the diagnostic equipment being plugged in to it before letting itself be coaxed back into action. Fair enough but when it refuses to share it's fault codes to allow the recovery to take place that is a major flaw. If there are no fault codes to share to indicate the troublesome issue that is definately a problem. Maybe if there was a sub program designated "common sense" which could be added to the system but probably not in the mindset of the designers.
I look forward to someone doing something similar with the Ineos Grenadier and posting the results of their trip with the vehicle fresh out of the box.

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Originally Posted by scarry

As is the way to get the rear tailgate set up open from inside,if the battery is flat.I dont think there is one LR that has this option.

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The L322 does and it's documented in the handbook.
Edit: It's not in the handbook - still looking.

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Originally Posted by Discodicky

Yes yes, but it also begs the question as to how competent are the respective LR Dealers who do the diagnosis' and subsequent repairs?

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I don't think there is any question about how competent dealers are. They simply have no clue and this is yet another example.