Towing a 21 ft caravan with a 90

Wont the 90 have trailer control , or anti sway, or whatever LR call it these days??

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Originally Posted by scarry

There are reports the 110 is like that,compared to other tugs on the market,towing the big weights,have a look at some of the tow tests around..

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I tow a 3.1T Zone Off Road van with our P400 110 and it is stable as a rock, I see the same reports from other 110 Defender owners, their van just follows with minimum fuss. The weigh company that checked ours out stated the long wheelbase and short rear overhang makes it a superb vehicle for towing and we’re impressed when it ran with a lower TBW % figure vs ATM than recommended (6.9) but with zero sway which can be a common issue on many tow vehicles..

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Originally Posted by zilch

I tow a 3.1T Zone Off Road van with our P400 110 and it is stable as a rock, I see the same reports from other 110 Defender owners, their van just follows with minimum fuss. The weigh company that checked ours out stated the long wheelbase and short rear overhang makes it a superb vehicle for towing and we’re impressed when it ran with a lower TBW % figure vs ATM than recommended (6.9) but with zero sway which can be a common issue on many tow vehicles..

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Yeah, that mirrors what I'd read, but I haven't followed up any further... I'd be surprised if they weren't as good as the D3/D4 which we use, and they are probably as good as anything in their class, maybe the best even.(D3/D4 I'm talking)

I'll feedback as and when I learn more so any results are clear to the forum.

We are expecting delivery of the van in September, but am also looking at renting a trailing to go and do some towing course so that I can practice driving around with something bigger than an X3 on the back. Anything I can share I will back on this thread.

I also need to try find some towing mirrors, having seen from another thread on here there do not seem to be a lot of options. For those that tow with a 110, what do you use?

Cheers

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Originally Posted by PeterAllum

I'll feedback as and when I learn more so any results are clear to the forum.

We are expecting delivery of the van in September, but am also looking at renting a trailing to go and do some towing course so that I can practice driving around with something bigger than an X3 on the back. Anything I can share I will back on this thread.

I also need to try find some towing mirrors, having seen from another thread on here there do not seem to be a lot of options. For those that tow with a 110, what do you use?

Cheers

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Get the Defender 3D tow mirror mounts and a set of Milenco and you should not go wrong, I use the D3D mounts with Brunsgaard

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Originally Posted by PeterAllum

Thanks Paul..

Unladen weight of the 90 is 2141KG, so with fuel/passengers/spare wheel/cargo etc.. we probably just about outweight the tare of the trailer... (2300kg) but it will be very close!!

It may have to be a little slow and steady to feel how it behaves. I was also thinking it would be a good idea to add some ESC on the trailer to keep it behaving as well as possible.

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It has been documented that with the short wheelbase of the 90, its possible to develop a shimmy when towing, this is because the ratio of cars wheel base to tow point and the vans distance from tow point to axle(s) is in favour of the van.

Also, remember the current Defenders, like the D4 and D5 all have trailer sway control built in. Last I checked with JLR, they do not recommend a separate sway or stability control like the Alko system, as this may work against the car's trailervsawy control.

In my view, a 90 defender towing a 2.3 to 2.8t van is perhaps not ideal, I'm sure the engine a d trans can do it, but stability would be "interesting".

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Originally Posted by Eric SDV6SE

It has been documented that with the short wheelbase of the 90, its possible to develop a shimmy when towing, this is because the ratio of cars wheel base to tow point and the vans distance from tow point to axle(s) is in favour of the van.

Also, remember the current Defenders, like the D4 and D5 all have trailer sway control built in. Last I checked with JLR, they do not recommend a separate sway or stability control like the Alko system, as this may work against the car's trailervsawy control.

In my view, a 90 defender towing a 2.3 to 2.8t van is perhaps not ideal, I'm sure the engine a d trans can do it, but stability would be "interesting".

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We tow a Kimberley Kruiser S (which is in 2.3 to 2.8t range) with our MHEV 90 - no shimmy, no sway.
Very happy with 90 towing this weight.
Previously towed Kimberley with D4 TDV6.
Prior to that a D3 and an Ultimate Camper.
Starting with D3 when towing, always drive with transmission in Sport mode as this helps with transmission temp.