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That’s why I went to a tdv8 L322. Still got a few 110s laying around. One even works. [emoji1787]Quote:
Originally Posted by Didge
Pass... maybe when I'm old and finished doing what I love doing (ie: remote travel), then maybe I might consider something like this but then again, who knows what will be available at that time...
I can see how the D4 owners would move into the new Defender instead of the not-so-good-looking D5... they are pretty much on par but only time will tell.
ATM, I just can't see them selling in huge numbers for quite some time but I hope they do remain reliable, especially with all the high tech that's built in as it won't be cheap to replace if it was to fail outside warranty... Talking about warranty, I have not idea what period/kms they are coming out with, but if LR truly believe & stand behind their product, then they should offer a decent warranty period ie: +7yrs/unlimited kms like some of the existing car manufacturers are doing now... just my thoughts though as I have no plans to buy one anytime into the foreseeable future...
Yes, I think you're spot on about needing a long warranty.
Kia and Hyundai overcame their cheap and nasty reputations by offering 7 year/ unlimited km warranties.
LR had a reputation for unreliability, which is probably exaggerated, but the way to kill it would be to offer a similar long warranty and back it up with a co-operative attitude and rapid replacements.
Totally agree... We just purchased a Kia Cerato Hatch & I can't believe the value u get when compared to say - Toyota. 7yrs/unlimited kms - u can't really lose plus I read that Kia plans on bringing out a Dual Cab ute and because other manufacturers are looking at increasing their warranty periods that Kia will look at increasing their Warranties up to 10yrs/unlimited. Now that's having faith in your Product for sureQuote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
Landrover and a few other Brands (ie: Jeep for one) reaaly need to lift their warranty periods like Kia, etc and people will be more prone to buy one
Without an unlimited km 5 yr warranty,i wouldn't go near one.
For the record,with Tojo,they have had an extra two years on their warranty if the vehicle is purchased and serviced by the same dealer,for years.Actually over 10yrs.
It now brings their 5 yr warranty to 7 years,where it used to bring their 3yr warranty to 5yrs.
I think they'll sell a lot of them. Plenty of people cashed up enough and want a good wagon that can do everything. Plenty more who will lease expensive cars to keep up with the Jones's and portray an image.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robmacca
LC200 is a rort for the price and interior equipment level and doesn't look great. They still sell heaps of them.
The new Defender is a great all round car. There's no new cars that tick as many boxes overall. It's like a D4 but looks tons better and with the Defender brand strength it also gives off a more 'outdoorsy tough' image than the Disco brand ever could.
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Originally Posted by scarry
At what cost? Mates 2014 200s has extended warranty at extra cost. Services are b expensive and even tho it is low ks and immaculate..Toyota wont extend it past 5yrs. They are now looking at aftermarket warranty due to fear of engine repair/replacement costs. The dealer also laid down conditions/recommendations other than servicing eg not drive on dusty roads/beaches. Hence they would not take it to Phillip Isl last year for fear of voiding the warranty.
It sits in the shed in the main otherwise it tows the 3t shed on sealed roads..which it does well. Trade in value will be impressive no doubt☺
No extra cost,at least that is how it is on our vans,they were the 3 yr,plus another 2yr.Quote:
Originally Posted by INter674
I believe its the same now,with the 5 yrs,from what the local dealer has told me recently.The 5yr warranty only came in recently,i think Jan 2020?So its 5 plus 2,only from that date.
But as said,must be serviced at same dealer it is bought from.Thats what it is at our local dealer,maybe not all of them?
On another note,these extended warranties cut out the guys who are not qualified mechanics,but do their own servicing.
Many do a very good job,and at least they know it is being done properly.
Really!!! How does anyone know this?? Only time will tell if that statement will become true... I wouldn't be game to touch it, little alone use it for remote travel... sure, if u are not the type of person that goes to really remote offroad places but keeps to the more populated (civilised) areas (ie beaches, local areas, etc), u might well then take the risk and buy one of the first ones off the ship.... but not for me...Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexRS4
If LR really want to change their public perception around the world, then they will have to start offering better warranties with a minimum of 7yr/unlimited warranty to help change people's opinions of LR... After watching a few videos on the new Defender, they have missed a golden opportunity in catering for a wide range of people.... it's solely aimed at the higher end market where people are generally not likely to stray too far off the bitumen or away from civilisation...
Look at the Toyota Landcruiser model for example. U have a vehicle model that caters for the more basic use like farmers, miners, etc (70's Cruisers), through to a model that caters for those that want more comfort; gadgets,(ie: 200's Cruisers) etc. The 70's and 200's still carry the same "Landcruiser" badge, but are built totally different (ie: RFS vs IFS). Why couldn't LR do something similar with the Defender?? Cater for ALL areas of the 4WD/AWD market. This would give them more sales overall too...
They used to,actually, the market they more or less pioneered,they don't have a vehicle in any more,its been handed to others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robmacca
If you have a good look at the quality control of the last run of Defenders(backed up by many including Dazza and JC on here,and the one in my driveway),its pretty obvious it was in a market they had no interest in.
Anther new Defender vid.
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