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  1. #41
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    I haven't done anything on the FFR for some time.
    I've extended the shed extension to get the 2a under cover, purchased a 1960 109" ute (which is taking up my time) collected a S3 Diesel parts car and finished the rocking horse I was building for one of my daughters but nothing done on the FFR.

    I start it and move it every few months but I decided today to do something while waiting for parts for the 109 ute.

    I fitted the NOS silencer box. The old one was past saving, looks like the FFR was overfuelling and backfired which has blown out the seams. I might cut off the 2 connections but otherwise it's scrap.
    Bled the clutch just to get some fresh fluid into the system. The old fluid was very dirty and it's history unknown.
    Next an oil change then drove it around the garden to move the oil around the gearbox, axles etc. Started to run like a dog, coughing & misfiring. Fuel was low so added some to the tank but it didn't improve things.
    Something else to investigate.......

    Colin
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C, Suzuki SV650

  2. #42
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    Colin, your very patient hows it all going, sounds a bit like mine slow and steady.
    Now that overfueling your talking about, sounds like a similar problem I had only recently, not overfueling as such but fuel dripping from the carby while it was going, I had put a carby kit through it ages ago and couldn;t understand why. The solution was easy, instead of taking the spare carby out of the cupboard what I did was take the carby off the dinty engine and bolt it on, a bit of idle fiddling and it starts well, doesn;t leak and I haven;t had to take it apart, weird eh.

    john


    ps I think, if its overfueling its either the jet is really worn, or the float is up too high and the fuel is running into the manifold , the needle and seat are worn ,the pump pressure is too high and its not turning off when the line pressure is reached, but thats all a guess. Some expert may come in and know exactly what it is.But if its backfiring into the muffler, There are a few things that can cause a car to backfire. A few things it could be are, bad timing, incorrect ignition wiring, low fuel pressure, so that is the other side of the coin, seeing you have taken it apart I think it could be something simple like a timing issue....

  3. #43
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    John,

    It's been running fine since the engine overhaul, the reference to overfuelling was relating to the damaged silencer box that was on it. Spoke with the Father-in-law last night and he recons that's more likeley to be coasting downhill with the ignition off then turn it back on to get a backfire (he used to do it when he was younger). Silencer is past saving.

    Not sure why it started running rough the other day but I haven't touched the carby on it so maybe time to investigate further. It lost power and then stalled so could be a fuel supply issue, OK at tickover but problems running under load.
    I'll just add it to the list of things to do after an oil change for the Defender, brake overhaul on the Series 2 LWB ute, derusting and lining the fuel tank on the Series 1 plus a few things the wife wants done before I go back to work.....

    Colin
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C, Suzuki SV650

  4. #44
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    Moved the FFR to remove the canopy earlier in the week (it's being sent off to get a new roof section sewn in).
    Went into the back for the first time since I've owned it and found a new set of spark plugs, some brake shoes, wheel nut brace and an alternator (condition unknown).

    I need to overhaul the carby because it still plays up now and again, although checking out the whole fuel system wouldn't hurt.
    The motor runs well after hand scraping the wear ridges and fitting new rings I just need to find some time to work on it to get it through a roadworthy.


    Colin
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C, Suzuki SV650

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    Colin,
    Must be something in the air, 2 weeks ago mine was running the same, playing up under load and really running rough like I was missing a couple of cylinders. I checked the fuel filter, the spark plugs, leads points, dizzy etc.... finally dropped a little oil in the [stromberg] carby and all seems to run fine again...Can't say for sure it was the carby but that seemed to fix it.
    I hear too that the diaphram can get a hole and cause same symptoms.
    I was going to check the coil and replace the condenser next...hopefully it's not one of those intermittent problems!
    good luck.
    Rob.

  6. #46
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    Rob,

    I have an overhaul kit & diaphragm and I've not looked at the carby since I purchased the vehicle so I guess I'll just add it to the list......
    I have to overhaul the carby on the Series II and tune the carby on the Series I so maybe I'll have a carby weekend soon !

    Colin
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C, Suzuki SV650

  7. #47
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    I haven't done much on the FFR for ages, the C240 Isuzu Series III has been taking up my time instead.
    At Corowa this weekend I did manage to find 4 radio tables thanks to a fellow FFR owner. Spoke to him about his vehicle and asked where he got the radio tables, "that bloke over there...." he replied. The rest is history.

    The canopy has a new roof section now and there isn't that much to do to get it roadworthy just fit the Olympic Steeltreks, fit new windscreens, fit replacement wing, fit replacement master cylinder, straighten the brush bar, sort out the carby problems. OK there are a few things to do......


    Colin
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C, Suzuki SV650

  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
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    At Corowa this weekend I did manage to find 4 radio tables thanks to a fellow FFR owner. Spoke to him about his vehicle and asked where he got the radio tables, "that bloke over there...." he replied. The rest is history.




    Colin
    Hello Colin,

    That was me, pleased to meet you, glad I could help.

    Regards
    Scott

  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by LandroverScott View Post
    Hello Colin,

    That was me, pleased to meet you, glad I could help.

    Regards
    Scott
    Thanks very much Scott, I didn't think at the time to ask if you were a forum member.
    Mine's been on the backburner for some time. I did quite a bit of work on the motor then another project came along, then another. My boys were asking if we were coming to Corowa in a Land Rover next year so I need to get the little Isuzu finished and spend some time on the FFR.


    Colin
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C, Suzuki SV650

  10. #50
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    G'day Gromit.

    I have just read the saga of the S3 FFR,glad to see it is all coming together,but it makes it all the more satisfying when it is finished and you have done most of the work yourself,it took me 6 years on a very limited budget to re-build my 2a GS bent chassis and all,when chasing engine parts don't overlook parts from the Rover car range,P4 P5 series overhead inlet side exhaust,these engines were 3 litre jobs (the 2.6 was an under bored 3) the Aust army used the Bosch distributor/ignition set up from mid 70's Torana's from memory.


    For Lucas electrical parts try Kevin Baker up at Witta on the Sunshine Coast in Qld. but don't for get to fit a relay to the head light system it takes all the power drain off that flimsy switch I use a "new era" dual fused relay should be available from REPCO stores,I use and fit them to all of the lighting systems on my Rover vehicles I own and those of my friends, and it improves the lights greatly.


    cheers

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