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    HI Mick,
    I bought one over a year ago had been watching for a while, its been great, the only thing I would suggest is if you are looking at one that has a logo painted on the door, mine was 8-1, find out what unit that was. Mine came from a mortor platoon in Darwin so it had been driven hard. I put a toolbox across both back halves of the tray, new canopy on the forward half, roof top tent over the toolboxes extra fuel, water and a few other things, did 9000 Km to and through the Simpson this year, no land speed record, drove well, have had issues with the drive train but I think that was down to poor maintenance by civil contractors the Army used in Darwin, uni joints.
    If you get 4x4 Action mag issue 257 has some photos of it.
    Hope you find a good one and enjoy I am

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    6x6 is described as light truck on the plate, has same Carry capacity as the old 4x4 army acco

    6x6 LR is not a tow vehicle, it should be .... but army always underrates, and it’s only 4 liters

    If your towing F250 or F350

    Check out price of other 20 year old commercial trucks, you might be a little surprised at the cost value compared to 6x6 with reality of 500k + of hard life

    There was really good tenix rebuilt one sold recently for mid 30’s not sure how good was but if it was as it looked, that’s the most they are worth,

    I bought some Real expensive tyres and came with 6x6,

    Mine so far is a very negative experience,

    Great design, awesome to drive

    if you don’t have more funds above purchase price and time available to for repairs

    Don’t buy one with out log books,

    Don’t rely on road worthy,

    Get someone to look at if who knows them,

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR LR View Post
    I'll see if I can dig up dads old sales brochure on the civvy 6x6, I know he delivered at least one of them. That would surely state it.

    Although the GCM would still need to be raised.

    I even sold a car to the guy, twenty something years later!

    Mick Marsh - links are in history on computer, but I literally googled "6x6 perentie towing capacity" and the first few links all yielded that answer.
    I found one.
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    As John (JDNSW) says, it's GCM is 7050kg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    The GVM of the civvy 6x6 should be 4.7t.

    6x6 Australia rate their Landcruisers tow capacity at 3t on road and 1.5t off road.
    The civvy coil spring 6x6 GVM is certainly 4700 kg and the GTW (Gross Train Weight in UK or GCM in Oz) is 7500 kg. However the civvy narrow track/coil spring model is a different animal to the Perentie 6x6 so the civvy data doesn't necessarily apply.

    6X6-ID-modified.JPG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    The civvy coil spring 6x6 GVM is certainly 4700 kg and the GTW (Gross Train Weight in UK or GCM in Oz) is 7050 kg. However the civvy narrow track/coil spring model is a different animal to the Perentie 6x6 so the civvy data doesn't necessarily apply.
    Corrected your typo.

    Yep. The point I'm making is you cannot apply the ratings for civilian Landrovers to Perenties.
    I think the assumption "If the civilian Defender 4x4 ratings can be applied to a Perentie 4x4 and, because civilian Defenders are rated to tow way more than Perentie 4x4s, we can tow more than the military rating on the 6x6 Perentie because the civilian 6x6 110 must be rated way more", is totally false.

    I have always been of the opinion Perenties cannot adopt the ratings of their civilian counterparts. It's just a bonus the Perentie 6x6 has higher ratings than it's civilian counterpart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies
    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    The GVM of the civvy 6x6 should be 4.7t.

    6x6 Australia rate their Landcruisers tow capacity at 3t on road and 1.5t off road.
    The civvy coil spring 6x6 GVM is certainly 4700 kg and the GTW (Gross Train Weight in UK or GCM in Oz) is 7500 kg. However the civvy narrow track/coil spring model is a different animal to the Perentie 6x6 so the civvy data doesn't necessarily apply.

    6X6-ID-modified.JPG
    Corrected your typo.

    Yep. The point I'm making is you cannot apply the ratings for civilian Landrovers to Perenties.
    I think the assumption "If the civilian Defender 4x4 ratings can be applied to a Perentie 4x4 and, because civilian Defenders are rated to tow way more than Perentie 4x4s, we can tow more than the military rating on the 6x6 Perentie because the civilian 6x6 110 must be rated way more", is totally false.

    I have always been of the opinion Perenties cannot adopt the ratings of their civilian counterparts. It's just a bonus the Perentie 6x6 has higher ratings than it's civilian counterpart.
    Hi Mick

    I don't mind you quoting me but don't correct me when you are wrong yourself.

    Did you look at the weights recorded on the VIN plate of my 6x6 Defender? The GTW is 7500kg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Hi Mick

    I don't mind you quoting me but don't correct me when you are wrong yourself.

    Did you look at the weights recorded on the VIN plate of my 6x6 Defender? The GTW is 7500kg.
    I did not look at your picture.
    Interesting, your picture shows 7500kg where as the brochure shows 7050kg. Was the brochure a typo?
    How can we reconcile the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    I did not look at your picture.
    Interesting, your picture shows 7500kg where as the brochure shows 7050kg. Was the brochure a typo?
    How can we reconcile the difference?
    After my post and being acutely aware that I did have a shot at you, and I apologise for any offence, I was thinking about this issue. You were quoting from a document on the 6x6 variant of the 110 where my 6x6 is a variant of the Defender, perhaps it was the fact that mine is built with the HD diffs which were not available in the 110.

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    I have been told the civvy version of the 6x6 Perentie used the same chassis. Did the Defender version also use the same chassis?
    I would ave thought the limiting factor would have been something around the construction of the rear cross member area, much like the 4x4 Perentie (yes, I know they have different rear cross members).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    I have been told the civvy version of the 6x6 Perentie used the same chassis. Did the Defender version also use the same chassis?
    I would ave thought the limiting factor would have been something around the construction of the rear cross member area, much like the 4x4 Perentie (yes, I know they have different rear cross members).
    No the UK built Defender 6x6 was an extended standard 110 chassis (130-BC40) where the extension was a 40 inch section inserted between the coil spring mounts and the original 110 rear chassis stuck at the back. The Perentie 6x6 is something like a 150-BC35 with a boat trailer stuck on a wide track 110 front chassis. IIRC the civilian 110 6x6 built by JRA had the wide track rear with the boat trailer chassis but the standard front track chassis. Although there were a number of UK built 6x6 imported and sold through JRA/LRA so I'm not aware what your brochure relates to.

    When you look at the towing capacity of my Defender 6x6 it is nominally the same 3000kg as the Defender 110 so long as you don't have the maximum mass on the vehicle.

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