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    Quote Originally Posted by drivesafe View Post
    At 7 or 8 amp, going how much you can draw down that brand of battery, you will need around 30 hours of constant charging, if the batteries were near the cut-out level.
    Yes Tim,, i understand just how long I need to use a generator to fully charge my batteries....
    Not going to happen.

    That was just an exercise/top-up..

    if I get down to 12.5/6 then I'll do another 4 hours,,

    Do you want a PIC of the people in this Park at the moment???

    13.04 by the meter at 6.35pm
    12.96 by software...

    so its a bad cell??

    or a bad controller??


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    Have you tried disconnecting the solar controller from the batteries at night? I still think it is backfeeding to the panels.

    Seeing the batteries took a charge from the generator there would appear to be nothing wrong with them.

    BTW you can run a much bigger charger than direct from the 12v outlet from even a 1000w generator.

    A 20amp 240Volt to 12volt charger will run no problems from a generator as long as it is sine wave , although I ran mine from even an old chugga.
    Regards PhilipA

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    Have you tried disconnecting the solar controller from the batteries at night? I still think it is backfeeding to the panels.


    Seeing the batteries took a charge from the generator there would appear to be nothing wrong with them.

    BTW you can run a much bigger charger than direct from the 12v outlet from even a 1000w generator.

    A 20amp 240Volt to 12volt charger will run no problems from a generator as long as it is sine wave , although I ran mine from even an old chugga.
    Regards PhilipA

    There is an OFF option for the charger in the software, will try tonight

    Reluctant to run genny....

    The charger is set for "Low" (at the bottom) I think I did that the very first time overnight,,


    Software showing over 14V at the battery,
    Voltage at OUTPUT TERMINALS of controller showing a .5v difference
    meter on batts showing 13.1 .. so we have a voltage loss of at least half a volt.


    So far today its bulk charged for 3hours and 25 mins and gone to absorbsion
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    14V at the controller output terminals,
    13.17 at the batts.

    will be the same at 6 tonight..........
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    I wouldn't rely on the software and your meter voltages being comparable. I would use the meter to compare the voltage at the controller output and at the batteries when looking for voltage drop. Also check for voltage drop between the battery posts and the cable terminals, or better still to the cable wires if accessible rather than the terminals.
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    There is an OFF option for the charger in the software, will try tonight
    I still suggest that you physically disconnect the controller from the batteries by unscrewing the positive terminal from the controller to the batteries.

    You seem to be relying on the electronics working correctly but if they are not the test of where the problem lies is to physically isolate them.
    Regards PhilipA

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    Not so much relying as **** scared of blowing the controller up...
    big sparkies involved taking the positive away, even at night... maybe especially at night

    "Charger" turned off in the software menu...

    Batt V on the meter is 13.05

    Dont give up on me Phillip,,, as long as the batts get to 13V each day life goes on...

    We have tracked down a mobile sparky that MAY be able to visit us on the 3rd... maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    Not so much relying as **** scared of blowing the controller up...
    big sparkies involved taking the positive away, even at night... maybe especially at night

    "Charger" turned off in the software menu...

    Batt V on the meter is 13.05

    Dont give up on me Phillip,,, as long as the batts get to 13V each day life goes on...

    We have tracked down a mobile sparky that MAY be able to visit us on the 3rd... maybe.
    Where are you Pedro? Did you go a few days without sun ? We have had some average weather here.

    The difference between voltages is less.. Can you also check then at the terminals of the controller and compare them.. ie controller says 11v and you check at the terminals on it and report back..

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    Batt V on the meter is 13.05
    That is very low and is less than 40% capacity.
    If you unplug the positive to the controller from the panels first particularly at night, there should be no current. Then undo the positive to the batteries.
    Regards PhilipA
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    There is a slight difference between software and terminal, varies between .01 and .1V.
    and a difference between output terminals and batts of around half a volt, I can only assume the cable into and out of the controller is the maximum size,
    6awg.


    Batt Voltage this morning before reconnection- 12.88V



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