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Originally Posted by rovercare
Exactly, I know of two cases in my area in the last 18 months.
One lady (whom I treated) got her hand "cold burnt" so badly whilst refueling here vehicle, that she had to have it debrided, then have a total skin graft.
It's nasty stuff, and not taken seriously enough.
Another injury that can occur when refilling portable gas bottles is, small ice particles that are discharged, can cause permanent damage to eyes.
Cheers, Mick.
10 yearly, certified inspection agencies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh
its usually cheaper to pay an installer to put a new tank in.
But if it's the fault of the valve on the pump itself you'd be able to take legal action against the servo I'd wager.Quote:
Originally Posted by mick88
The servo I fill up at is only brand new so luckilly the equipment is in good order.
Now that Manchester are the only Oz tank manufacturer left, typical new tank prices are around $500. Testing is usually between $100 and $300. Generally tanks fail from rust (wash under the protection plate!) or dents from wreckers yards mishandling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blknight.aus
I suspect that people are panicking and trying to fiddle with the handle to shut off the flow, instead of leaping back and hitting the safety shut-off button on the pump. The importance of checking for the rubber sealing washer in the filler point on the car is mentioned on every pump.Quote:
Exactly, I know of two cases in my area in the last 18 months.
One lady (whom I treated) got her hand "cold burnt" so badly whilst refueling here vehicle, that she had to have it debrided, then have a total skin graft.
It's nasty stuff, and not taken seriously enough.
This is a good argument to end self service for all fuelling. A bit of training, some hazmat suits and you have employment opportunities. Would also reduce drive-offs.
having been frustrated by the removal of clips for the pump handles on nearly all stations i made this little thing up with two opposing parts of velcro joined at one end. it works great and gives me the time to wash my window and take a rest while waiting.
it lives on the low/high level when not in use.
:cool:
I found out back in my LPG days that the slower pumps were able to put more fuel in the tank than fast pumps, before the shut-off valve activated.
I also discovered that if you only squeeze the pump handle in slightly, allowing a very slow flow rate (at about the point you think it would normally cut off) that the cut-off valve did not activate at all.
Using this method I was able to get about 7 more litres in the tank which would get me the extra few km's I needed to reach the next cheap LPG outlet.
also i forgot to add that tank temperature can make a significant difference to the point where if its a hot enough day ive not even been able to fill it at all from about 1/4 full due to lack of pump pressure.
Stops us un-trained plebs from doing it our-selfes.:pQuote:
Originally Posted by bee utey
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Originally Posted by haydent
Time for a quick lesson:)
Lets say your tank cuts off at 68 litres ( 80% of it's total capacity). For every 5 deg increase in gas temperature, it will expand 1% in volume, so, say you fill up with LPG fresh from the refinery ( usually colder) and it is 10 deg celcius. You don't drive anywhere & the temperature is stinking hot for a few days & the gas temp hits 40deg. It has expanded 6%, so your tank now has 72 litres:eek:
But wait, if it's the reverse, you got ripped off:(.
Not really, the bowser has a temperature probe which converts the volume back to 15 deg centigrade. I used to drive a LPG tanker and always laughed at the cab drivers who would complain that thier tank just took 75 litres & it can "only" take 72. Of course they never complained when it was empty & took 69 litres, in reality it was taking 72 litres every time ( give or take as the swirling can put off the AFL mechanism a bit) and the bowser was charging for the energy content rather than the volume. The hotter the gas, the less energy content, so you get charged for less than it actually is- volume wise.
Hope that makes sense.
Bowsers dont pressurise the gas, just transfer it. It's common in Vic for someone to drive to Melb from sunny North, come across the Divide to 15 deg lower temp, then wonder why thier tank is slow to fill, it's because the hotter gas from where they filled has a greater back pressure than that at the Melb servo. Worse again if they filled with Propane & then try to fill with Autograde which can be up to 50% butane- a much lower pressure gas.
I heard the other day that some refineries are cracking Ethane to blend in. I don't know what pressure that is.