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Thread: Backfire Protector Valves (and a couple of other questions)

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    Your dissy cap terminals should be OK with a quick scrape off. What about the inner surface of the cap though? That looks like moisture droplets. If you have got water in your dissy it will only run occasionally, as moisture condenses and re-evaporates inside the cap. Give it a darn good polishing with a soft dry rag and refit it. If moisture reforms you will need to leave the cap off so any moisture in the dissy can evaporate.

    Don't know anyone who puts "anti-seize" under their rotor. I use a drop of engine oil once every 10,000km.

    The ignition amp is where I said it would be.

    The rotor is a substitute not listed in any parts book, as it has been tested by individual owners only. The cap is whatever part is listed in a catalogue, nothing else comes close.

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    Bee Utey Wins the Prize Again!

    The first attempt to get sparks accross from the coil HT lead to the exposed rotor was inconclusive then I remembered what an old auto elect told me: "If you are looking for sparks, do it in the dark!"

    I repeated the test with the garage door down & the lights out & sure enough there was a thin stream of orange sparks from the end of the lead to the centre of the rotor. Ergo a leak to earth= a misfire. It wasn't a huge loss but probably enough to cause idling problems & misfiring under load.

    It's Sunday arvo so I'll try a new rotor next week.

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    Damn! It's a Tight Fit!

    Hey Guys!

    This Bosch GB 864 rotor is a VERY tight fit. In view of the Stuck Rotor Syndrome, I was worried so I gave it the hot air gun for a while & it was a bit better so I assumed it would be ok on a hot engine & wear itself in.

    There was no HT bleeding thru the new rotor so I was hopeful.

    But, while it now runs OK with the FAM disconnected & starts very easily, it still won't idle under 2000rpm. & its much worse on LPG than petrol, wuth lots of little backfires.

    Comments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by geodon View Post
    Hey Guys!

    This Bosch GB 864 rotor is a VERY tight fit. In view of the Stuck Rotor Syndrome, I was worried so I gave it the hot air gun for a while & it was a bit better so I assumed it would be ok on a hot engine & wear itself in.

    There was no HT bleeding thru the new rotor so I was hopeful.

    But, while it now runs OK with the FAM disconnected & starts very easily, it still won't idle under 2000rpm. & its much worse on LPG than petrol, wuth lots of little backfires.

    Comments?
    That's funny, I've not had a problem fitting the GB864. There must be a minor variation somewhere.

    A hose fallen off or split open? Look around the back of the inlet manifold at the idle air bypass hose.

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    Bee Utey Strikes Again!

    Well done mate! T'was blown clean off! Idles great now. Too late for a test run. Will report tomorrow.

    Geez! I haven't had so much fun since my 1st major job: tracking down a misfire 40 years ago on my 1st car: a '56 Beetle. Not a good ending: it was a cracked head!

    My Synopsis:
    The rotor partially fails.
    Random HT current bounces around under the dist cap. It randomly fires spark plugs sometimes when inlet valves are open. No biggie on petrol, there's no fuel in the intake!
    Being a frugal chap I switch to LPG. KERBOOM! an almighty backfire blows off the inlet hose between The MAF & the LPG mixer & the air idler hose.

    Thanks again!

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    All Good!

    Test run went fine.

    I took of the cap & the rotor went off & on no problems confirming that it was "newness" that made it tight. A burr that I did not see?

    It still has one feature that puzzles me.

    It starts 1st hit on LPG dead cold but refuses to do so when hot. I have to switch back to petrol then to LPG when on the move again. Surely this is not some wierd safety thng?

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    Quote Originally Posted by geodon View Post
    Test run went fine.

    I took of the cap & the rotor went off & on no problems confirming that it was "newness" that made it tight. A burr that I did not see?

    It still has one feature that puzzles me.

    It starts 1st hit on LPG dead cold but refuses to do so when hot. I have to switch back to petrol then to LPG when on the move again. Surely this is not some wierd safety thng?
    The petrol assist timer may be adding too much petrol during hot starts. If you could find it they usually have an adjustment on the box. Don't ask me where it is, you will have to find it yourself. It could be built into the changeover switch, or fitted near the relays that shut off the petrol.

    Try cranking the engine and slowly pressing the accelerator to about 1/4 down as the engine spins over. This shouldn't cause any problems. Don't floor the pedal before cranking of course. Just squeeze it after cranking has commenced.

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