Printable View
I'm not tarring anyone. In NZ we used to have LPG prices similar to Aus. Then without warning they got cranked over a short space of time to meet international prices.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozscott
Prior to that we had a lot of LPG falcons as taxis and the like. Now I can't recall the last time I saw an LPG vehicle on the road or being filled.
Its all good here mate. Its going up slowly as a yearly average but so is other fuels. It is here to stay. There is a lot of RnD going into it still. The systems now are very sophisticated and just getting better each few years. I wont go into direct liquid LP that HSV use here for eg but there is plenty of development left.
Cheers
At 95c/litre,for many people not really worth having,particularly after installation costs of the latest injection systems.
If you have a petrol large 4x4,it may save you a few $,but only around town,as in the regional areas the prices for LPG are ridiculous.
The other issue is the vehicle is often modified and actually has a reduced petrol capacity from original,or in some cases the LPG tank takes up a lot of room inside the vehicle.
In a late model large 4x4,diesel would be my first choice.Actual fuel costs would be very similar to running the vehicle on LPG,without the additional costs of modifying the vehicle and fitting the LPG system.
The point is it's not going to be at this price long term...it will come back. Also when diesel hits $2 pl LPG will still average about half that for a whole year (ie taking into account summer and winter in Europe that affects our LPG costs). My linked scuba tanks x3 takes up very little room in my d2 with its high roof...and original petrol tank. I know not everyone will go for that but plenty have and will continue to do so.
My LPG system allows me running costs for fuel at less than a td5 or TDV6.
Cheers
How much gas does your D2 use?Quote:
Originally Posted by ozscott
Thanks Dougal; if you don't mind ozscott, what system is on your d2?
Price jumped from 71.9 to 91.9 in Bendigo. The government won't do a thing now add they're collecting excise on it. The sad thing is I see a lot of people who buy ex taxis and put in literally $5 every few days just so they can get the kids to school. Pretty soon those on welfare won't be able to run a vehicle. .....
Sent from my GT-I9305T using AULRO mobile app
18 l per 100k and that is in and out to Brisbane not highway - stop start - with 31in light truck tyres, Rhino Rack, TJM Winch bar minus winch, LPG weight etc. As LPG averages across the year even now at half the price of diesel or premium petrol that's the equivalent of 9l per 100k and better on the highway, so you can see why I personally like it.
The system is a BRC Impco Plug n Drive Sequential that does up to 400hp engines.
For some stats from about 2010 in Australia see http://www.otogaz.com.tr/pdf/index.p...&rekPressDw=14
Cheers
For comparison. Here are the fuelly TD5 disco results from 130 vehicles: Land Rover Discovery MPG Reports | FuellyQuote:
Originally Posted by ozscott
Discovery on lpg:
Land Rover Discovery MPG Reports | Fuelly
This one says gas, but they're american so it's actually petrol:
Land Rover Discovery MPG Reports | Fuelly
You're doing very well with only 18 litres/100.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dougal
Both my TD5 and TDV6 will do 10l/100 easily,9l to 9.5/100 on a run,easy.Around town,11 to 12 absolute max.
I am guessing a D2 will do around 17/18L per 100? on LPG,maybe worse around town?
Even if it was doing 16L per 100,not much in it.
If we are talking towing,well different ball game,don't know what the figures are as i don't tow.
If you add in installation costs,as well,not much in it at all.A repair on the LPG system will also blow out the costs.
If the price eventually drops down to 76c/l,then LPG may be slightly cheaper,but not much.
Umm,just read the above posts,yer i am a slow typer....
Maybe because mines manual.
Don't forget their is a large increase in purchase price on diesel powered vehicles. Also there are a lot of people who actually prefer petrol engines over diesel for a variety of reasons irrespective of higher per 100k fuel costs.
My point is that it's wrong to say LPG is a blip. It's here to stay thankfully.