Classic Rangie on gas

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11th February 2007, 07:52 PM
Ace

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Originally Posted by p38arover

I get 230-250km on 54 litres in the P38A - around Penrith. I get 300 on the highway.

Ron

thanks ron. Have you gotten all your other probs sorted?
11th February 2007, 07:55 PM
Utemad

Well if it is doing only short trips then the fuel bill won't be so bad. So since you have said that then why the need for gas? You would have a wider choice of vehicles if you didn't go for gas. As for not doing any mods to it. Tell us that again in 12 months ;)

I can also see the need for wanting a RR if you are the Laser driver. One of the main reasons we take the Disco everywhere is I just don't like being in my wife's Corolla. Especially since if I am with her she wants me to drive it. I mean it is a fantastic little car and I encouraged the purchase but it wasn't bought for me.

If I was serious about economy I would have bought a diesel myself. I have done 18000kms in the last 5 months in my V8 while the Corolla has just clocked that in 28 months :cool:
11th February 2007, 07:57 PM
p38arover

Not yet, Matt.

That 54 litres is actual fuel - not the tank size. The biggest hassle with my LPG install is the small size of the doughnut tank. Working at Katoomba I have to fuel up every 2.5 days.

Ron
11th February 2007, 07:58 PM
Utemad

Where is the link to the sale ad if there is one? We want to see pics :)
11th February 2007, 08:08 PM
scrambler

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace

I thought that the norm was to start on petrol and flick to gas when running anyway, is this the case?

That it is, that it is. But in mine, that means priming 4-5 sec then put fuel switch to "off" (neither gas nor petrol flowing), start and immediately switch on gas. If the petrol runs for, say, 8 seconds the carbs flood the engine, and I crank for a minute to clear the excess fuel, end up spitting carbon black everywhere. If the carbs are wet with petrol overnight then they work better, can actually start on petrol, otherwise I start as above, THEN change to petrol.

Another thing to factor into the dual-fuel discussion is that you will probably need premium petrol. Mine certainly does. If the engine's high enough compression for good running on gas you need the knock resistance (unless there's a knock sensor but I don;t think that was fitted to the 3.5 - someone here will correct me I'm sure).
11th February 2007, 08:16 PM
Ace

Quote:

Originally Posted by scrambler

That it is, that it is. But in mine, that means priming 4-5 sec then put fuel switch to "off" (neither gas nor petrol flowing), start and immediately switch on gas. If the petrol runs for, say, 8 seconds the carbs flood the engine, and I crank for a minute to clear the excess fuel, end up spitting carbon black everywhere. If the carbs are wet with petrol overnight then they work better, can actually start on petrol, otherwise I start as above, THEN change to petrol.

Another thing to factor into the dual-fuel discussion is that you will probably need premium petrol. Mine certainly does. If the engine's high enough compression for good running on gas you need the knock resistance (unless there's a knock sensor but I don;t think that was fitted to the 3.5 - someone here will correct me I'm sure).

Thanks, i run premium unleaded in anything that isnt diesel out of habit anyway, so when the car is run on petrol it will be premium.

Here is a link to the add on ebay- remember i found it first so mits off.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/range-rover_W...QQcmdZViewItem
11th February 2007, 08:18 PM
Ace

Quote:

Originally Posted by scrambler

That it is, that it is. But in mine, that means priming 4-5 sec then put fuel switch to "off" (neither gas nor petrol flowing), start and immediately switch on gas. If the petrol runs for, say, 8 seconds the carbs flood the engine, and I crank for a minute to clear the excess fuel, end up spitting carbon black everywhere. If the carbs are wet with petrol overnight then they work better, can actually start on petrol, otherwise I start as above, THEN change to petrol.

Another thing to factor into the dual-fuel discussion is that you will probably need premium petrol. Mine certainly does. If the engine's high enough compression for good running on gas you need the knock resistance (unless there's a knock sensor but I don;t think that was fitted to the 3.5 - someone here will correct me I'm sure).

No worries thanks, i would run it on premium anyway.

Here is a link but remember i found it first so mits off

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/range-rover_W...QQcmdZViewItem
11th February 2007, 08:18 PM
100I

Economy hah

Ace, on average mine returns around 4.5-5K/L on gas & 5.5-6K/L on petrol, but it gets subjected to a great variety of cycles as it is not a DD.
The timing is at 14deg, it may take more but I haven't experimented any further, I'm happy with it. On gas it goes just as well as it used to on petrol with factory advance, and now on 98 petrol it stonks, but would not be happy on 91 (haven't tried, 91 is for lawnmowers).
No large 4wd will be economical compared to a small 4cyl, but in the long run the component life/robustness of the larger vehicle would blur the line.
Ok a 15yr old Rangie is half worn out but I assume your laser is too (I don't know how old it is). IMO even the diesel argument is flawed when you factor the initial purchase cost, servicing costs, their reputed longevity versus the V8's reputed longevity on gas. It takes a lot of km to get a return on your outlay for a diesel versus the petrol alternative which will often be in better condition and lower km. A diesel gives greater range that's all. The V8 is quiet, smooth, flexible and if you really need some sting just flick it onto petrol.
11th February 2007, 08:22 PM
Ace

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Originally Posted by oldzook

Ace, on average mine returns around 4.5-5K/L on gas & 5.5-6K/L on petrol, but it gets subjected to a great variety of cycles as it is not a DD.
The timing is at 14deg, it may take more but I haven't experimented any further, I'm happy with it. On gas it goes just as well as it used to on petrol with factory advance, and now on 98 petrol it stonks, but would not be happy on 91 (haven't tried, 91 is for lawnmowers).
No large 4wd will be economical compared to a small 4cyl, but in the long run the component life/robustness of the larger vehicle would blur the line.
Ok a 15yr old Rangie is half worn out but I assume your laser is too (I don't know how old it is). IMO even the diesel argument is flawed when you factor the initial purchase cost, servicing costs, their reputed longevity versus the V8's reputed longevity on gas. It takes a lot of km to get a return on your outlay for a diesel versus the petrol alternative which will often be in better condition and lower km. A diesel gives greater range that's all. The V8 is quiet, smooth, flexible and if you really need some sting just flick it onto petrol.

These are factors i have considered, the Laser is an 88, its a great run around but i think the longer runs arent doing it any favours. We use it a bit for the longer runs to bathurst (50-60km away) and it struggles on the hills. Eventually it will go, and i am more comfortable working on a Land Rover than i am a laser however simply, and you can still get any part you want for a rangie. Matt
11th February 2007, 08:24 PM
p38arover

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utemad

I can also see the need for wanting a RR if you are the Laser driver. One of the main reasons we take the Disco everywhere is I just don't like being in my wife's Corolla. Especially since if I am with her she wants me to drive it. I mean it is a fantastic little car and I encouraged the purchase but it wasn't bought for me.

Zackly! My wife has a reasonably new Forester. It's a nice enough car but I much prefer the Rangie to drive. If we go anywhere with me as the driver, we take the P38A.

The Forester was her choice and I encouraged that but that doesn't mean i like driving it.

Ron

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