The Great LPG Swindle

well it seems as if someone may be listening out there. i flicked on ABC 621RN this morning about 7.15am just in time to hear the end of an article about LPG grants and some sort of problems with lpg australia. as yet the abc website has not been updated to include this mornings transcripts but i will endeavour to post a link to the article as soon as it becomes available.
i can't believe it is a coincidence that in the space of a week there has been a hastily refreshed document released and a radio article about a subject that would normally have little newsworthiness. i will make sure i send a link to this debate to the journalist concerned. it is either lpg australia attempting to get onto the front foot or i'm not alone in feeling there are flaws with this organisation...
watch this space.

well actually, looks like the MTA has started a bit of propaganda themselves...

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Although I can't quite follow their reasoning .....

I smell a rat....

Good luck.

Pete

yep, apparently i'm now classified as a 'smartie' by the mechanics themselves!
the article would appear to confirm my earlier assertion that $400 is the going rate for fitting a kit ! so who is rorting the system ? i paid $605........
if it works, the link below is to the full programme audio. spool to 12'05" to hear the snow job. according to the print version posted by xxXX_LR V8_XXxx kim carr is now investigating. that's funny because as my senator for victoria i emailed him on monday asking him to contact me. i didn't get a reply but now it seems i'm the one that's set to become a target. thanks kim, i'll remember that come the next time i'm in a ballot box ! (and i thought he might have been to busy to reply because he was singlehandedly 'saving' ford in geelong)



rtsp://media1.abc.net.au/reallibrary...122-AM-full.rm

so now the ABC's radio story has become a TV story and started to spread, seen on the bigpond site too.
'Smarties' rorting LPG conversion rebate - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
i must admit it is a beautifully orchestrated bit of propaganda done by pros so the chances that the MTA are the instigators of it are zero. i've done a bit of reading on the hirstute gent seen in the last shot and it would appear he is famed for his ability to destroy those who get in his way by employing sedition and Vyshinsky-esque tactics to demonize his opponents.
well hello ? according to maksim gorky:
"Enemies must be seen as inferior. I believe quite profoundly that the enemy is our inferior, and is a degenerate not only in the physical plane but also in the moral sense".
now i'm all confused........which one is the 'physically degenerate enemy' ?

Yet another benefit for the "worse off", what a joke, if your "smartie" enough to complete your own install, you shouldn't get it?, your smart enough to earn a good wage, you should pay more Tax, no health benifits, pay medicare levy, people think the baby bonus should have a cut off figure, for lower wage earners...........seem's good to be punished for having a brain:(

I think grants are a load of crap, personally, I think they all should be canned, but if they are there, I WANT my share, any excuse to get some of my 35k in Tax paid back:twisted:

If the government was serious, they'd subsidise, LPG, remove Stamp duty and subsidise child care moreso, no grants

i'm quite aware "canning the grant" is what the feds want to do anyway. they are trapped against the wall of being committed to reducing emissions and supporting working families but knowing full well exactly who has rorted the living daylights out of this grant.(i'll give you a clue, it ain't me. the gravy train only stops at tubbysville)
$2k might only be the average bill for a good night at the Hermitage Restaurant & Wine Bar in Canberra for some.
for me it represents last month's unpaid mortgage payment, a sheaf of overdue bills and the spectacles my optician told me i need to stop the eye strain !

oohh, julia gillard says there ISN'T going to be a cabinet reshuffle so in polly-speak that means the knives are out. if kim-il-carr gets the push i might get a more formidable opponent.........
i hope its peter garrett:

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"hey, hey-hey hey, therell be food on the table tonight"

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is that a core promise pete ?

I have only read half of this post enough to add this: There are many installers that would not install as well as a mechanic with heaps of time, care, and attention to detail and knowledge of the LPG rules. I dont see why a fitter cannot then sign off on the install - its all there to inspect and see. A fitter will not typically take the care (its time they dont have it usually) to fit cover plates to protect lines, install oversized fittings (as in bolts to hold them in and big brackets) to tanks, customise fillers that are meant to go into the area where the fuel cap is (because most kits do not fit where they should!) and put the converter where it should go, not where it fits without changing things around (ie away from heat but also so its not the highest point in cooling system like so many you see).

When it comes to gas I like the idea that its done properly - and when done so its safer than petrol.

Cheers

hmmm, i've done a little research on this mccall character from the mta featured in the ABC's story. it seems disinformation is this bloke's stock in trade. this is from a 2005 article about an insurer taking him and his bully boys to court:

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The insurer is taking the NSW Motor Traders Association (MTA) and the Country North Vehicle Repairers Association (CNVRA) to the Federal Court, claiming both the MTA and CNVRA have launched a "public misinformation campaign" against the insurer.

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it is nice to know one is not alone in this world........