Thread: Identification Help

Yup and likely why it was going through a full base overhaul at 2Base Wkshp in 1973.

You too are a lucky bugger having a Vietnam vet! Will you return it to workshop variant status?

I think that would be the only thing to do with it. That will have to happen!

I was not expecting to find this out about my old spotlighting ute.

I'd better tell my dad.

Well, now we have 2 Land Rovers claiming ARN 112-166, Scott F has S2A 109 chassis No 25304001A, cheers Dennis

Originally Posted by Dinty

Well, now we have 2 Land Rovers claiming ARN 112-166, Scott F has S2A 109 chassis No 25304001A, cheers Dennis

Yes , however given the 153101763 rebuild happened in Oct 1973 the most likely scenario is: when Hughie88's chassis was a lube workshop ARN 112-166 in Vietnam Scott's, chassis' was an Auto repair workshop with ARN 108-632. Like most vehicles that returned from SVN they then all want through a full base rebuild when they got back.

If you talk to people on the 2 base workshop line in those days, they didn't much care which parts were assembled with which vehicle, as long as the ARN left the workshop in the correct census.

We're the ones who get hung up with the provenance of the vehicles against the chassis and ARN it left service with, but for a significant part of the service the chassis was often under a different ARN and census.

Just like my gun buggy chassis, was it most of the time under 112-723 that it left service with? Or 112-726 it commenced in service with? Or did they merely swap the plates to send a finished buggy to a unit the ARN was assigned? I don't know but makes for an interesting debate.

You should also look at the front drag link and LHS dumb-iron, in the images from Vietnam (above), with what you can see, you can't see the steering damper and AFAIK the SIIa army had steering dampers. A retrofit one in the 1963 SIIa and an OEM in the later SIIa. Making the uncut guards and no steering damper likely a SII so Hughie's and probably not Scott's SIIa.

Originally Posted by hughie88

Yes Lotz A Landies the winch has been on it as long as I have had the vehicle. Is that a piece of hardware that could have been fitted by the army? Or is it more likely to have been by an owner once the vehicle began civilian life.
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Hi hughie

The capstan winches were usually only fitted to early ambulances and some GS but rarely to a workshop.

The majority of winches were the Bamford PTO drum winches. However 174-434 is a 6028B census Truck, Utility, 3/4 Ton, GS, Cargo With Winch so this may be your capstan and have been fitted during the rebuild in 1973.

Yes. I had a good look at the REMLR website last night, specifically the census information for the 174-xxx trucks. it was 1 of 2 vehicle that were of the census 6028B which i think makes it a little unique.
At this stage I can't confirm this however I am very sure the winch assembly is painted in olive drab.

I have had a read of the posts on this thread from last night regarding the fact that there are now two people that have ARN 112-166.

I dont know a great deal about landrovers and im still getting my head around a lot of the information on REMLR.

Is the debate, whether my chassis is the one pictured on the REMLR website and in the photos with Rob Moseley?

Incidently Robert Moseley is now the Jnr Vice President of the Queensland Vietnam Veterans Association. I found him on the internet last night.

Lotz-A-Landies.

Ill quote you;

"If you talk to people on the 2 base workshop line in those days, they didn't much care which parts were assembled with which vehicle, as long as the ARN left the workshop in the correct census.

We're the ones who get hung up with the provenance of the vehicles against the chassis and ARN it left service with, but for a significant part of the service the chassis was often under a different ARN and census."

Apologies I havn't worked out how to do that properly at this stage.

Are you saying that the plates (the photographed ones) I have might not not match the chassis under my vehicle?

If this is the case, Is there a location on the chassis that the chassis number is stamped? For better or worse I am interested to confirm this.

The chassis number should be stamped on the LHS rear outrigger just above where the LHS shackle plate is attached, you may need to use a wire brush to clean the area cheers Dennis
Do you have a clear picture of the way the Capstan winch is fitted, as it looks very different to how I remember them being fitted, I also have a Land Rover that is a veteran of the conflict in Sth Vietnam, mine was a Military Police vehicle (Provo),.