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    Good to hear that you are making some progress as well. That oven from toolern vale looked pretty good but I can see how the bottom would be damaged. Did you have to replace the entire bottom panel? I will be doing the same with my oven. I have cleaned out what was left of the asbestos secured to the bottom already in preparation. Do you have any pictures of how the baffle plate between the smoke exhaust and the lower inlet looks? Mine is totally gone so I have nothing to pattern. I'll give the stove paint a try, is it a gloss black you have been using or semi gloss? It seems that the original would be a flat black.

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    The paint is calledRustoleum in black satin finish. Look it up on eBay and they will post it to you.

    Not sure what baffle you are describing.

    And yes I put a whole new panel in the oven bottom. It could have been patched but a new section was a better way to go. Allowed me complete access to how the ovens are manufactured. I still have to rebuild another ovens on the second cooker as it is burnt out in the oven wall and floor. Will be a much bigger job.
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    Two NOS boiler units, sandblasted, painted and ready to fit
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    latest progress

    her is a few pics of the latest progress on our Junior after the welding and painting. It actually necessitated the removal of both guards, and chassis repairs due to rubbish accumulating over the years because of the gaps in the welding. Not a problem any more due to automotive sika flex. I don't suppose anyone would have some number stencils the same style as that other junior on this thread which still has its numbers displayed? I haven't managed to find a set with the same style "3". I Believed that my number was 163115, but upon closer examination it appeared that the last digit was actually a 6. The first 5 numbers were unmistakable.
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    For a short time I am able to get my hands on new 7.50 x 18 tyres with a road pattern to suit wiles senior cooker of WW 2 vintage.
    That size 7.50 x 18 was a standard American trailer size in WW2 and little use afterwards.
    New road pattern is harder than rocking horse poo to find.......Only tractor type tyres are common in that size and totally unsuitable for road use.
    If you have a WW2 senior and want tyres for the standard wheels......Now is the time as they may never be available again.
    PM me if anyone is interested.
    Ron

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    Quote Originally Posted by 101 Ron View Post
    For a short time I am able to get my hands on new 7.50 x 18 tyres with a road pattern to suit wiles senior cooker of WW 2 vintage.
    That size 7.50 x 18 was a standard American trailer size in WW2 and little use afterwards.
    New road pattern is harder than rocking horse poo to find.......Only tractor type tyres are common in that size and totally unsuitable for road use.
    If you have a WW2 senior and want tyres for the standard wheels......Now is the time as they may never be available again.
    PM me if anyone is interested.
    Ron
    What are you sourcing Ron? Is there anything else available in 18"? As in 11.00 x18?

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    One of my industrial tyre sources has found a small amount of 7.50 by 18 most likely made in China.
    I have 4 ordered for my Wiles senior and I think another 4 are available.
    These have nothing common with the modem 4WD tyres............But are were used during
    WW2 mostly on American trailers and are extremely rare these days.
    I suspect the Chinese may have a old set of the molds in the size.
    I think 11.00 x 18 could match up with Gama goat and DUKW still available from the USA
    My tyre supplier has come good other odd sizes in time.............Need more information.
    PM me.

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    New tyres arrived for the Wiles senior cooker today.
    Impressed with the quality......not chinese, but Korean.
    The new tyres fit some sort of Korean bus, very heavy duty road tyre of 16 PR rating and max pressure of 115 psi.
    Sort of a over kill for the Wiles cooker, but they fit , look the part and go round and round.
    7.50x18 wiles cooker tyre by john smith, on Flickr
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    7.50x18 wiles cooker tyre by john smith, on Flickr
    7.50x18 tyre wiles cooker by john smith, on Flickr
    Ron

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    In earlier pages of this thread I mentioned in my family for many years there was a working Wiles junior cooker.
    we sold it to another collector after my father died about 18 years ago.
    It was working with a boiler that had no problems passing its certificate tests every year, but the whole unit was a bit on the rough side and needed refurbishing.
    The new owner started to pull it apart and that's as far as it got.
    during the 18 years some parts got broken.
    Recently in my world a friend told me of a Wiles cooker for sale on Face Book in my area.
    I tracked it down on face book and found a picture...….straight away I knew it was the same unit.
    A deal was done and I now own a junior wiles cooker, mostly complete.
    A old family friend has come back home, just like the senior Wiles/Boyded cooker I have...…...who would have thought.
    The way I am going repairing the big senior cooker is a major job which I don't have time for.
    restoring the junior I may be able to do in my limited time and limited money.
    I for now just have been doing odd jobs on it, but the oven and boiler needs to come off the chassis to treat rust and paint the chassis ect.
    The oven and boiler so far still appear to be solid where it counts.
    I need to find a sheet metal ash pan for under the boiler...…...I don't remember it ever having one...….like most things on the Wiles cooker it can be made.
    I need to track down new boiler pressure guages for both junior and senior cookers.
    I have the missing broken boiler parts in the spare rusty senior for parts only cooker which should fit the junior cooker.
    our cooker never had the original wheels, but thanks to a friend I have tracked down the correct wheels which match up to a 1938 chev 16 inch, which are now fitted with good rubber and painted/sand blasted ect.
    boiler and oven doors, sand blasted and painted, as is the chimney.
    The boiler grate, had cast iron teeth missing, so I have made bolt on steel replacements to fit the original castings.
    Found a sliding draw under the fire box of the oven, blasted, welded up holes ect on that.
    I have no idea what the draw was suppose to hold.
    The boiler pump , check valve and various steam valves are solid brass.
    It is interesting to note the boiler pump and fire grates are a different size to the senior cooker.
    Got nothing really planned or a time line for the junior, just going to do parts of it on a rain day when I can do nothing else.
    I am looking to replate the steamers in pure Tin...….its going to be experimental, but I have been working on a plan and a method to do this.
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    The Right hand side picture was the advertised picture on face book.
    Before the junior was sold on 18 years ago I acquired a small steam whistle which was fitted to it.
    The wiles cooker was owned by my father at the time, and the whistle my me which I wanted, much to resentment of the new owner of the time of the cooker.
    I still have the same whistle...…..after much searching for it in my junk at home.
    In fact after watching a youtube video of watching a bloke using a forklift gas bottle valve and turning it into a steam whistle on a Lathe I though one night I would give it a go.
    I have now made three of the things and each one is better than the last, and in fact all work well.
    I am learning making a steam whistle so it can be tuned and adjusted is very important as is getting some dimensions perfect.
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