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    Quote Originally Posted by 101 Ron View Post
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    Why were the mud guards set so low that it was possible for the tyres to rub on mild spring compression.
    I would guess that they were designed for smaller tyres. Remember that in the 1930s, just before the war, six inch tyre section was large, most prewar cars were only five inch or even less. And Fords with 3.5 inch tyres were still quite common.

    I don't know what tyres you have seen on them - probably 7.50 -16 where they were designed for 6.00-16 or 5.50-16.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraman View Post
    I spent 5 yrs in a CMF transport platoon (69 - 73) and towed Wiles cookers from Brisbane to the Wide Bay Firing Range at Tin Can Bay behind IH Mk3 trucks on a number of occasions.

    We hated the things!


    Probably because you wanted to do 110kph & they wobbled a bit & you rolled them.. "Oh ****, Sarge will castrate me now & bang goes me G11"

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    I would guess that they were designed for smaller tyres. Remember that in the 1930s, just before the war, six inch tyre section was large, most prewar cars were only five inch or even less. And Fords with 3.5 inch tyres were still quite common.

    I don't know what tyres you have seen on them - probably 7.50 -16 where they were designed for 6.00-16 or 5.50-16.
    Into the 1950's a 6.00 x 16 was considered a large tyre in passenger car terms. Most had a 5.00 to 5.90 section, and the 5.90 was a later version that replaced 5.50. Prewar cars had quite skinny tyres as John says. I had a 1928 Dodge Six where standard tyres were 4.50 x 21 and 5.25 x 21 was optional and recommended for rough road service. I can only wonder at what was a "rough road" in 1928 when most roads were appalling. There were many odd sizes that disappeared in the 1950's as the old cars that used them likewise disappeared. I had a 1935 Auburn with 17" tyres of an odd size which I can't remember, probably 5.50 or 5.75. I could not buy one anywhere and, believe me, I tried.
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    Exactly Brian - the first vehicle we had after the war ran 30x31/2 on the front, and 5.00x23 on the back (Ford). The next (REO) had 5.00x23 all round, the Swift we had then was meant to have 4.40x19, but you could not get them, so it ran 5.00x19. Then we got the Austin 16 that ran 5.00x16 if I remember correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    Probably because you wanted to do 110kph & they wobbled a bit & you rolled them.. "Oh ****, Sarge will castrate me now & bang goes me G11"
    No, I can honestly say that we never rolled one in my 5 yrs - they were just a pain in the arse. The air brakes on a My 3, with no peddle pressure, were enough of a challenge without adding an air braked dog trailer to the equation.

    A boy in Caboolture never knew how close he came to ending his life-cycle, when he ran out in front of my Mk 3/water treatment plant combo to retrieve a soccer ball.

    We did roll a Mk 3 on a driver training convoy exercise (no, not me!), which put the driver in the Gympie hospital for a few days.

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    This photo was taken by Colin McDairmaid


    It shows a wiles senior being pulled by a Mark 3 international.
    this photo has special interest to me due to its location .
    Chandler lane depot Kogarah… Sydney... from the late 1950s to about 1972 was home to 18 LAA..Light anti aircraft.
    From 1972 it became 23 Field REG Royal Aust Artillery.
    When I was a young bloke I joined 23 Fd RAA HQ RAEME at Kogarah. in the early 1980s.
    Some of the old hands were still around.
    I never paid much attention to the history of the site at the time being a young bloke.
    But I do remember in the ORs mess listening to the stories of a Bombardier Whitley telling but using the MK3 Internationals to pull the Wiles Seniors and the earlier Studebaker 6x6, some of which were fitted with compressed air trailer brakes especially to pull the Wiles senior cookers.
    Using the Internationals would be OK, but as stated a pain in the arse.
    The Studebakers would have done it at walking pace on any reasonable hill.

    More of Colins pictures can be found on flicka
    18 LAA Regiment. Kogarah. N.S.W. | Flickr
    Some of them show Studebaker and International trucks in service with Series Landrovers too.
    I find them interesting as a lot of them were taken at my old depot, but at a earlier time.
    The firing sites for the Bofors and camps were places I have camped with the army or camped as a civie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraman View Post
    No, I can honestly say that we never rolled one in my 5 yrs - they were just a pain in the arse. The air brakes on a My 3, with no peddle pressure, were enough of a challenge without adding an air braked dog trailer to the equation.

    A boy in Caboolture never knew how close he came to ending his life-cycle, when he ran out in front of my Mk 3/water treatment plant combo to retrieve a soccer ball.

    We did roll a Mk 3 on a driver training convoy exercise (no, not me!), which put the driver in the Gympie hospital for a few days.

    The Mk 3 Air Brakes were a bit of a killer for the first dozen applications I recall, but after one nearly pushed oneself through the screen a few times the knack reinserted itself & came pretty quickly after that. Foot-brake? No, a Toe-brake more like..

    I never drove one with a Trailer, only a Ton & a half of Ammo of various types, various SA Rounds, Grenades etc Weapons were transported in a 2nd vehicle.

    Despite having the mandatory EXPLOSIVES Signs on view I stopped at a Railway Level Crossing as was required then (& probably still is) & you should have heard the cacophony of horns blowing from civvy car drivers behind. ****wits

    Happy days.


    Ron. Thanks for posting the Link, it brought back a lot of good memories.

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    This will be my last post on this thread for a long while.
    I am where I want be with the Wiles junior cooker.
    The chassis is rust free and I can wheel the thing around out of the way as needed.
    I need to get back into my Alvis Stalwart restoration and its transportation trailer.
    The boiler has been removed from its box and the fire box casting plates, removed and sand blasted.
    The box for the boiler is thin.
    It could be reassembled and go again for a while, but I have come this far and may as well replace the sides of the box for the boiler.
    This job I will do only if the weather turns bad and stops me working on my other projects, as the wiles junior is small enough to do in my small workshop in doors.
    The fire box castings are in perfect condition and the pressure tubes header boxes for the boiler appear to be in reasonable condition and should serve again for along time.
    I have coming two replacement steam pressure gauges.
    I need to make a siphon tube for the guage which is missing on the wiles junior, but I have a intact one on my wiles senior to use as a sample.
    I know the oven needs a new bottom plate welded in and that I will most likely find cancer else where in the oven.
    I need to make or get made at least Two 90 degree bend steam pipes with 3/4 pipe male pipe threads either end to be safe as possible on the boiler drain and steam outlet before the shut off valves.
    The steamer boxes need replating, I have not progress any farther on the steamer boxes, as at this time its a low priority.
    I would be happy for any one to post about their wiles cooker on this thread.
    The cancer has been removed from the chimney and funnel and that side of things is ready to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 101 Ron View Post
    This will be my last post on this thread for a long while.
    I am where I want be with the Wiles junior cooker.
    The chassis is rust free and I can wheel the thing around out of the way as needed.
    I need to get back into my Alvis Stalwart restoration and its transportation trailer.
    The boiler has been removed from its box and the fire box casting plates, removed and sand blasted.
    The box for the boiler is thin.
    It could be reassembled and go again for a while, but I have come this far and may as well replace the sides of the box for the boiler.
    This job I will do only if the weather turns bad and stops me working on my other projects, as the wiles junior is small enough to do in my small workshop in doors.
    The fire box castings are in perfect condition and the pressure tubes header boxes for the boiler appear to be in reasonable condition and should serve again for along time.
    I have coming two replacement steam pressure gauges.
    I need to make a siphon tube for the guage which is missing on the wiles junior, but I have a intact one on my wiles senior to use as a sample.
    I know the oven needs a new bottom plate welded in and that I will most likely find cancer else where in the oven.
    I need to make or get made at least Two 90 degree bend steam pipes with 3/4 pipe male pipe threads either end to be safe as possible on the boiler drain and steam outlet before the shut off valves.
    The steamer boxes need replating, I have not progress any farther on the steamer boxes, as at this time its a low priority.
    I would be happy for any one to post about their wiles cooker on this thread.
    The cancer has been removed from the chimney and funnel and that side of things is ready to go.


    I hope you can keep us in the picture with the Stalwart Ron. I wasn't even aware you had a couple of projects on the go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    I hope you can keep us in the picture with the Stalwart Ron. I wasn't even aware you had a couple of projects on the go.
    You will find the on going Alvis Stalwart sarga in military FC Landrover section under the thread .....the ultimate FC
    It a few hours of reading.

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