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    Crump & Cornish

    Hi All,

    I've finally started work on my C&C trailer - and I need some help...

    I managed to remove the drum (thanks to Homestar) and as expected, I don't have any shoes:

    IMG_2007 by Grey Ghost, on Flickr

    Q: Can somebody please provide me with a photo of how the shoes are fitted? And how the handbrake is fitted?

    Q: Can somebody please tell me where I can purchase the shoes from? (What model number, etc?)

    I have been told that the shoes are the same as a Series vehicle - however I test fitted some shoes from a Series II LWB and a Seres 2A LWB - and they don't look like they fit to me...

    I've started to clean-up the backing plate. I also started to clean up the wheel nuts..

    IMG_2009 by Grey Ghost, on Flickr

    I would love to get this trailer on the road...

    I will try over in REMLR - but so far I haven't had much luck...

    Cheers,
    GG.
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    No. you won't get much luck. I need to get the innards for my BAE Systems trailer.

    I've been meaning to take my backing plates down to a brake place to get them to work it out.

    I'll post up a bit more info later. And pics.

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    Time for me to take my wheels off?

    Hmmm. Maybe I'll take the Xmas break chance to take the wheels off mine and have a look?? Might prod me to finish painting the rear light housings and refit/rewire them.

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    Did either/both of you guys get your trailer brake shoes sorted? I've just finished one side of mine and about to start the other side (in a drive to get the trailer licensed). I fitted a new hydraulic ring hitch to the draw bar and ran new brake lines, cleaned up the slave cylinder, sand blasted and painted the drum backing plate and drum itself and reassembled - just have to do Sama again.

    If you still need photo's or measurements of the drum internals, please let me know and I'll get some while I've got the thing apart.

    Cheers

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    Hi JayBoRover,
    To date I have failed miserably.. I believe that the master cylinder is a PBR unit, but I have been unable to source shoes or slave clyinders. I bumped into another C&C owner in Corowa (a military show) and he confessed that.... He had no brakes installed.
    My current thoughts are to try and find a trailer builder or repairer, and fit some kind of disc brake system instead. A bit frustrating tbh.
    Cheers,
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    PS - I now have a Perentie to go with the 101, so 2 vehicles to tow the trailer that I can’t use! Crump & Cornish
    54 Series 1 86
    61 Series 2 109 - Club Rego
    76 2 Door Range Rover
    78 101 Forward Control - Club Rego
    88 Perentie FFR - Club Rego
    90 4 Door Range Rover - Club Rego
    93 Discovery 1 200 Tdi - Club Rego
    98 Freelander 1 - Full Rego
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    PPS - I asked on REMLR for some help and was pointed towards some American brakes off an old ford, they are available (very expensive) but looked like they would beed modification - I didn’t want to spend big $ and risk wasting money without 100% assurance the parts would work.
    54 Series 1 86
    61 Series 2 109 - Club Rego
    76 2 Door Range Rover
    78 101 Forward Control - Club Rego
    88 Perentie FFR - Club Rego
    90 4 Door Range Rover - Club Rego
    93 Discovery 1 200 Tdi - Club Rego
    98 Freelander 1 - Full Rego
    22 Defedner 90 - Full rego

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    I have spent a motsa so far and I'm still not convinced they are the right parts.
    Yep. Same part number as in the RPS but I don't see how they interact with the adjusters and there is still no method of attaching the hand brake. These are the brakes for my BAE Systems trailer. They use the same chassis as the Crump & Cornish.
    T-122-3.JPG


    Interestingly, My Crump & Cornish has different brakes.
    T122.jpg


    Yes, John, photos of your brakes would be very helpful. Please post some up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grey_ghost View Post


    I have been told that the shoes are the same as a Series vehicle - however I test fitted some shoes from a Series II LWB and a Seres 2A LWB - and they don't look like they fit to me...

    Looks 'similar' to SWB Series brake but not the same.
    Can't quite see in the picture but are there individual pins for the trailing end of the shoes to pivot on ? Series only uses pin (shared by both shoes) and (on a Series I) only one adjuster.
    What diameter is the brake drum ?

    Series I front.
    DSCF2571 by Colin Radley, on Flickr

    I can try the brake supplier I use, a long shot but worth a try.
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    Series are 10". C&C are 12".

    Yep. Tried that avenue.

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