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    Conversion 3.2 TDCi Puma

    Hi all

    Did read the thread on this somewhere else, for those that have not:

    BAS in the UK is doing it with good success. They take a 3.2 5cyl TDCi motor and gearbox from the Ford Transit, have Ashcroft put a new rear end on the gerbox to take the LT230, straight fit to any 2.2 or 2.4 Puma engine mounts.

    Allisport intercooler and radiator combo, tweaks to the air intake, and wiring/computing developed by BAS makes the whole thing work.

    Here in SA we don't have the Transit, but we have plenty of 3.2 T6 Rangers, and in a couple of years the breakers should start to fill up with wrecked 3.2's

    Does anybody know if the T6 Ranger motor and gearbox is the same than the one from the Transit?

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    Didn't know the new Ranger was called a T6, but yes the 3.2 Duratorque is the same motor as used it he Ranger, BT 50 and the Transit in the UK.

    The 2.2 4cyl in the Ranger is the same as the 2.2 PUMA.

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    the engine is the same block pattern the box is different but I'd suggest that doing it would probably be on about the same par as putting a tdi300 into a tdi200, certainly I dont envisage it being any harder than getting a tdi300 into a series on the front of a series box.

    I strongly suspect that the gearbox bell patterns will be slightly different BUT if you had both vehicle there it would all bolt up (like fitting the tdi disco auto into a tdi disco manual its easy if you have both vehicles and are willing to scrap the auto donor)
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    Just a quick question...

    Is the 3.2 engine different to the 3.0 engine. Other than CC.

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    Pete from BAS suggest having both the engine and main box in the Defender, add the LT230 to that. The 2.2's bell housing is smaller, and with the extra torque from the 3.2 a bigger clutch is a good idea.

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    That article in LRO did say they had to change the gearbox from the MT80 to the MT82 to allow it to handle the extra torque, it also cost them $24k (GBP)
    to do the conversion as well.. its for sale now for 51k GBP if anyone has some spare change floating around for a D90. Would be great to take one for a run though, we have a 3.2ltr Ranger here at work and it goes like stink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chilly View Post
    Just a quick question...

    Is the 3.2 engine different to the 3.0 engine. Other than CC.
    The 3.0 Ranger (previous model ) is the Mazda engine, completely different to the 3.2 Ford motor.

    The new BT 50's / Rangers use the Ford Transit engines. ( 2.2 & 3.2 )

    Point of interest - Mazda is owned by Ford Since the Late 90's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezyrama View Post
    That article in LRO did say they had to change the gearbox from the MT80 to the MT82 to allow it to handle the extra torque, it also cost them $24k (GBP)
    to do the conversion as well.. its for sale now for 51k GBP if anyone has some spare change floating around for a D90. Would be great to take one for a run though, we have a 3.2ltr Ranger here at work and it goes like stink.
    According to Dave Ashcroft it is the internal diameter of the bell housing, as well as at least 3 bearings that are different between MT80 MT82.

    So it makes sense to put in a 3.2 with its gearbox.

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    Point of interest - Mazda is owned by Ford Since the Late 90's.
    Actually Ford have sold down their holding in Mazda over the last few years to currently 3% and are slowly severing development and production ties as well.

    That conversion cost is a bit too rich, but if Land Rover decided to drop the engine into the defender, particularly with an Auto trans, I'd be seriously interested.

    Steve

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    Ford 3.0 should be a good replacement for Tdi and Td5?

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