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    Let's have a general discussion on fog lights

    Just heard on the radio, the police here are targeting incorrect use of fog lights. They're dazzling other drivers, apparently.

    So, when they pull me over, "Nah, mate, they're daytime running lamps."

    So, what is the difference? I thought fog lights weren't meant to be dazzling bright. I know people who drive with their fog lights on all the time. "I want to see and be seen." they say.

    What is your opinion?

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    about bloody time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    about bloody time!

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    Fog lights are designed for use in heavy fog and YES they are quite bright, They are also a PITA for other road users if they are turned on when there is NO fog to disperse the light.
    If anyone wants extra lighting then upgrade your existing lights or buy some spotties or/and a lightbar, Don't be that Tosser driving around with the fog lights on when there is no fog and giving the other road users the ****s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    about bloody time!

    Absolutely.

    It's also annoying being dazzled by people on the other side of the dual carriageway on hi beam and people following on high beam.

    LED lights, some of them are just too bright.

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    A lot of this comes down to Coppers NOT knowing the Law, and/or not enforcing - or even cautioning - it. From my reading of the Law and Design rules, 'fog lamps' are ONLY to be used in certain conditions, Fog or extremes, where their use outweighs the dazzling....

    Correct me if I'm Rrong, but Fog lamps are supposed to mounted low, and aimed to project into/under that bottom layer of clear or less foggy, Fog. . A lower travelling velocity (speeeeeeeeed) is both prudent and practical.

    To be most effective, the beam shape of a fog lamp is wide, with a sharply defined and straight, 100% top-side cut-off.- You don't want to scatter into the foggy stuff, just sneak in UNDER it all.

    The Europeans, having lots of experience and common sense, were supporters of narrow-spectrum YELLOW coloured lamps, as having greater penetration into mist with the least amount of chromatic dispersion compared to 'white' light. Again, a sensible approach. "Sodium Yellow" being the preferred.

    Sadly, fog lamps now are often used to declare the owner's, um, 'personal habits'.... Gives pleasure to them alone, but distracts & annoys everyone else.

    As for 'Daylight Running Lights'.... too many of them are distracting and DAZZLING. (LEDs being the chief offenders, lines or rings or shapes of tiny, ultra-bright miniature Suns....)
    Using several hundred to thousand lumens to get 'Noticed' is wonderful... but at the risk of 'distracting' or 'fixating' the on-coming drivers ?????????? The (mis) 'users' of Fog and Auxillary Driving Lamps don't know or Care about the Regulations ... 'Encouragement' is required!

    It comes back to enforcement / Law, the term 'Dazzle' is a Regulatory one, used in the ADRs.
    It needs more... exercise.

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    DRLs do not operate when the headlights are on and I believe they are limited to about 25w. Fog lamps can be any power (55w) in my RRS and can operate independent of the headlamps. By law can only be turned on in poor vis/inclement weather, fog etc.

    Many modern cars have combined DRLs and parkers - during the day they are on and are bright but when the headlamps are turned on they reduce in power and then become the parkers.
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    Hi,
    I suspect a lot of the fog lights are miss aligned.
    As mentioned previously, the have a wide, flat beam to light the road, but under the fog, and should not reach as high as a car window.
    Cheers

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    People I've spoken to about their fog lights being on are often unaware that they actually have a separate switch to kill them. When everything goes out with the key thinking goes out the window too.

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    i keep mine on 24/7
    the more im seen, the safer i am.
    the law needs to wake up the 21st century

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    i keep mine on 24/7
    the more im seen, the safer i am.
    the law needs to wake up the 21st century
    Just turn your headlights on using low beam, No need whatsoever to use Fog lights to be visible.
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