Out of Date Tyres

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Homestar

While I agree with most of what you’re saying, in some instances cheap and cheerful isn’t an option - like my 101. I’m not about to drop several thousand dollars every 5 years on that just to keep a tyre company happy and I haven’t found a set of cheap rubber that will fit the standard rims - there are some cheap options in 36 to 37” if you have the rim widened though but then steering becomes even harder and the turning circle is reduced. Also $400 can be quite a bit to some people so to those that struggle to keep a car on the road, they’ll want to wear a set out completely before buying another set at any price and not at a certain time interval. I do get your point though with so many option being available these days. 👍

---

I never let a tread depth go below 50%, tyres steering and brakes are all important as each other IMO. Have always replaced my tyres at around 5 years , worn or not . Esp on the Caravan.

I certainly would not spend Michelin $$ every 5 years but don't YellowSea make 255-100R16 (9.00-16 equiv) that will suit the 101 ?? Strangely , 37" tyres for the Iveco are not that expensive @ around $300 each. but I too throw them away well before due date ,
Mud Tyres 37X12.50R17 129Q Federal Couragia M/T Brand New Tyres 37 12.5 17 SALE | eBay

Maybe i'm sounding like a ***** but I suppose if this is too expensive for some people they shouldn't buy this type of vehicle to begin with ?

Safety has to be considered but.........

I'm currently playing with 6 Land Rovers plus the daily driver.
The daily wears tyres out, if I followed the 5/6 year guideline I'd be replacing a set of tyres every year on a Land Rover or having one set of wheels & tyres I swapped around depending on what vehicle I was using. "just heading off to the shops, I'll leave in about 45 minutes once I've changed the wheels...."

Manufacturers are playing safe, no chance of someone coming after them if they clearly state 5/6 years life and a tyre fails after this time.

"if this is too expensive for some people they shouldn't buy this type of vehicle to begin with ?" Really ?
The tyres quite possibly don't need changing at 5 years anyway but it gives you peace of mind. If you can afford to prop up the local tyre fitters and the tyre industry that's up to you.

At the moment the law is quite clear and the 5/6 year replacement is just a guideline from the people who manufacture and sell tyres.


Colin

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by goingbush

Maybe i'm sounding like a ***** but I suppose if this is too expensive for some people they shouldn't buy this type of vehicle to begin with ?

---

Well I don’t think I’d call you that, or anything similar. 😊. I’m not even talking about 4wd but cars in general. Like a lot of decisions made from on high something like this would yet again see the lowest earning of the population hit the hardest if it were to be bought into law. Those that need a car for work and can barely keep it on the road. There are heaps out there in this position. 1 more regulation to make a corporation richer under the guise of safety to make the poor even poorer. Also, as Gromit says, with so many vehicles some of us have it would mean 1 or more sets of tyres a year to be purchased just to keep up when the tyres on the vehicles would be perfectly fine.

The XZL’s on my 101 are around 7 years old now and still in very good condition - no signs of cracking or fatigue in the walls. Not that I’d buy these - they were on the vehicle when I purchased it, but why throw out a perfectly good set of tyres that are worth so much just because someone with more money than me wants to make more money? Doesn’t pass the sniff test.

How the tyres are used must make a difference. Rubber dries out in sunlight. If a vehicle is always garaged, does the school run and is parked in the shade, surely the tyres must last longer.
I have heard of people painting light oil on their tyres to make them last longer, but I don't know any details. You would have to be careful about what was in the oil or it could harm the rubber. Would something like lanolin or sunflower oil be the best choice? I don't know about this stuff.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by gromit

Safety has to be considered but.........

I'm currently playing with 6 Land Rovers plus the daily driver.
The daily wears tyres out, if I followed the 5/6 year guideline I'd be replacing a set of tyres every year on a Land Rover or having one set of wheels & tyres I swapped around depending on what vehicle I was using. "just heading off to the shops, I'll leave in about 45 minutes once I've changed the wheels...."

Manufacturers are playing safe, no chance of someone coming after them if they clearly state 5/6 years life and a tyre fails after this time.

"if this is too expensive for some people they shouldn't buy this type of vehicle to begin with ?" Really ?
The tyres quite possibly don't need changing at 5 years anyway but it gives you peace of mind. If you can afford to prop up the local tyre fitters and the tyre industry that's up to you.

At the moment the law is quite clear and the 5/6 year replacement is just a guideline from the people who manufacture and sell tyres.


Colin

---

Fair point, but yes If I couldn't afford the upkeep I wouldn't keep buying them. I know what its like I've got 4 registrations and recently bought another Series to put back one the road and just today another non LR classic thats going to need tyres , luckily I think those Evergreen 215/85R16 will fit on it.

Having said that ive only ever had one "blow out" in 40 yrs of driving and that was on the Caravan on a Toyo MT55F 235/85R16 barely 6 months / 15,000km old

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

How the tyres are used must make a difference. Rubber dries out in sunlight. If a vehicle is always garaged, does the school run and is parked in the shade, surely the tyres must last longer.
I have heard of people painting light oil on their tyres to make them last longer, but I don't know any details. You would have to be careful about what was in the oil or it could harm the rubber. Would something like lanolin or sunflower oil be the best choice? I don't know about this stuff.

---

I have tyres on a motorcycle combination that are at least 35 years old, no sign of cracking.
It was used on the road in the UK but has since been kept in the shed for years but I have a feeling rubber compounds have changed over the years. Direct sunlight and ozone exposure does shorten the life of rubber.

Rubber products used to last a long time but ozone cracking seems to happen a lot quicker nowadays. The aftermarket Land Rover prop shaft boots, handbrake lever boots and track rod end boots only last a few years before disintegrating. I guess this is due to manufacturing to a price point.

American product here How To Protect Your Tires From Cracking | Gold Eagle Co. claims to reduce the problem.
I wonder if ArmorAll has the same effect ? Maybe it does Protectant Archives - ARMOR ALL

Colin

A cheap silicone spray tyre shine works well - I use this on all my tyres every 6 months so - even the caravan and trailer tyres.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Homestar

A cheap silicone spray tyre shine works well - I use this on all my tyres every 6 months so - even the caravan and trailer tyres.

---

Makes them look good for a week or two as well[biggrin]

My father never put the spare on the bonnet of the S1,except when he needed the room in the back,such as on a trip.He reconed it perished very quickly on the bonnet.

FWIW,The two of them are in my avatar,fixing a tyre under a tree,somewhere in West Africa,using the engine as an air pump.We still have the air hose,and the S1.[thumbsupbig]

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by gromit

I have tyres on a motorcycle combination that are at least 35 years old, no sign of cracking.
It was used on the road in the UK but has since been kept in the shed for years but I have a feeling rubber compounds have changed over the years. Direct sunlight and ozone exposure does shorten the life of rubber...................
Colin

---

I notice that on my garage floor there are 4 brown stains where the Disco's tyres stop when parked, may be from oils or whatever leaching out. I don't remember this happening even years ago when I was a kid, and our cars were always kept undercover of a garage or at least a carport with hard floors, paving, concrete, etc. so I definitely think there has been some sort of change in the tyre compounds.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Homestar

A cheap silicone spray tyre shine works well - I use this on all my tyres every 6 months so - even the caravan and trailer tyres.

---

Does tyre shine actually do anything to condition the rubber, or is it like most shoe polishes which don't do anything to condition leather, but just put a shine on top?
I was thinking sunflower oil or lanolin might actually moisten the rubber. Obviously you would have to do both sides of the tyre too.
It shows how important it is to fit a tyre cover rather than leaving it exposed.