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    OK some more light comparisons....

    One of the lightforce XGTs has started to lose some alumininum from the reflector and I decided I needed something better for the Defender. After some browsing I settled on Rallye 4000s. Unsure of what the euro beam ones might be like I ordered a couple of these from Amazon ($87.70 at the time) HELLA 007560361 Rallye 4000 Halogen Series 12V/100W Black Driving Beam Lamp: Amazon.com.au: Automotive
    I also ordered a pair of pencil beams as I have had lots of Rallye 2000s with the pencil beam and been pretty happy with them. ($152.00)HELLA H12560061 Rallye 4000 Series 12V/100W Black Pencil Beam Halogen Lamp: Amazon.com.au: Automotive

    I would have given a pair of Cibie Super Oscars a go as I reckon they have an edge on the Hellas but finding a pair of spot beams at a reasonable price was impossible when I was looking.

    The euro beam ones look like they are a similar pattern to the LED Cibies on the RRS which are OK but not what I like. Oh, and the Rallye 4000s are bloody heavy. They're well made but weigh a couple of kilos each compared with less than a kilo for the XGTs


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    The Lightforce and the Rallye 4000 side by side, the rallye 4000 pattern is on the right and has a really concentrated spot in the middle that isn't really evident on the photo


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    Euro beam Rallye 4000 with the pencil beam

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    The pencil beams fitted. Unfortunately the beer consumed whilst fitting precluded taking them for a run tonight but looking at the beam patterns they look to be very similar to the Rallye 2000s that reside on SWMBO's jeep these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W&KO View Post
    wondering what other halogen options there are.
    Sadly there is nothing stock worth getting, all the older Halogen lights are too heavy, leak too much, have lousy lumens/watts etc.

    Sorry to say but the FYRLYTs are overhyped and their only real claim to fame is their warm tint, there are all kinds of LED tints & now high cri is becoming the norm, yet no one is making good LEDs.

    Some reasons why the Nemesis 9000 are overhyped is because they can cause eye fatigue with glare back & some times having all that light is not a good thing, you need smart beam patterns which you simply can't get with a bulb in a large deep smooth reflector with clear lens. Years back when travelling interstate for hours on end our eyes got sick of the two 130watt spotties we had, because of all the road signs. So don't fall for all this marketing.

    The 9000 lack quite a bit in the close side coverage area & peripherals which at times you absolutely need.
    Their beam isn't wide enough for the open road, no true wide beam, only a cheap trick to turn the globe, this is very limited due to the donuts that will form.

    I have seen high powered output aircraft landing sealed lamps with a low & high beam & just one lamp would totally destroy the pair of Nemesis, have to see it to believe kind of beams. Not practical but just shows how outdated the 9000s are. Finally if you wan't a proper light setup that actually hits many of the areas properly & not just the main road & signs your only option is say 6x 100watt spotties (4 for the front, 2 for peripherals) with different beams, plus DIY diffused filters & cutoffs etc, alot of work to do & mount on the front bar but smarter & better than anything out there. Thats a massive 600watts for just about 16,000lumens, but it's much more controlled & useful & enjoyable. It will be years until
    someone starts making LED that looks like halogen, there is "Amber" LED but it's a sick joke & looks awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StormCamper View Post
    Sadly there is nothing stock worth getting, all the older Halogen lights are too heavy, leak too much, have lousy lumens/watts etc.

    Sorry to say but the FYRLYTs are overhyped and their only real claim to fame is their warm tint, there are all kinds of LED tints & now high cri is becoming the norm, yet no one is making good LEDs.

    Some reasons why the Nemesis 9000 are overhyped is because they can cause eye fatigue with glare back & some times having all that light is not a good thing, you need smart beam patterns which you simply can't get with a bulb in a large deep smooth reflector with clear lens. Years back when travelling interstate for hours on end our eyes got sick of the two 130watt spotties we had, because of all the road signs. So don't fall for all this marketing.

    The 9000 lack quite a bit in the close side coverage area & peripherals which at times you absolutely need.
    Their beam isn't wide enough for the open road, no true wide beam, only a cheap trick to turn the globe, this is very limited due to the donuts that will form.

    I have seen high powered output aircraft landing sealed lamps with a low & high beam & just one lamp would totally destroy the pair of Nemesis, have to see it to believe kind of beams. Not practical but just shows how outdated the 9000s are. Finally if you wan't a proper light setup that actually hits many of the areas properly & not just the main road & signs your only option is say 6x 100watt spotties (4 for the front, 2 for peripherals) with different beams, plus DIY diffused filters & cutoffs etc, alot of work to do & mount on the front bar but smarter & better than anything out there. Thats a massive 600watts for just about 16,000lumens, but it's much more controlled & useful & enjoyable. It will be years until
    someone starts making LED that looks like halogen, there is "Amber" LED but it's a sick joke & looks awful.
    Have you actually owned and used FYRLYTís?

    You havenít mentioned what you run....

    Iím happy enough with my FYRLYT 5000, I run both in spread these days......good quality light for a couple of hundreds meters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W&KO View Post
    Have you actually owned and used FYRLYTís?

    You havenít mentioned what you run....

    Iím happy enough with my FYRLYT 5000, I run both in spread these days......good quality light for a couple of hundreds meters.
    He seems very much like a competitor seller or individual. Iíve seen similar posts before.

    I spent several hours last night behind a pair of Nemesis and 18,000 lumens was doing a great job, no glare - yes bright but not dazzle from highway signage - easy visibility and contrast of Grey Roos on a the scrub at the edges.

    No eye strain at all.

    HID and LED just canít match it
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    And Iím about to start trying some serious MoFos FYRLYT Driving light review
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormCamper View Post
    Sadly there is nothing stock worth getting, all the older Halogen lights are too heavy, leak too much, have lousy lumens/watts etc.

    Sorry to say but the FYRLYTs are overhyped and their only real claim to fame is their warm tint, there are all kinds of LED tints & now high cri is becoming the norm, yet no one is making good LEDs.

    Some reasons why the Nemesis 9000 are overhyped is because they can cause eye fatigue with glare back & some times having all that light is not a good thing, you need smart beam patterns which you simply can't get with a bulb in a large deep smooth reflector with clear lens. Years back when travelling interstate for hours on end our eyes got sick of the two 130watt spotties we had, because of all the road signs. So don't fall for all this marketing.

    The 9000 lack quite a bit in the close side coverage area & peripherals which at times you absolutely need.
    Their beam isn't wide enough for the open road, no true wide beam, only a cheap trick to turn the globe, this is very limited due to the donuts that will form.

    I have seen high powered output aircraft landing sealed lamps with a low & high beam & just one lamp would totally destroy the pair of Nemesis, have to see it to believe kind of beams. Not practical but just shows how outdated the 9000s are. Finally if you wan't a proper light setup that actually hits many of the areas properly & not just the main road & signs your only option is say 6x 100watt spotties (4 for the front, 2 for peripherals) with different beams, plus DIY diffused filters & cutoffs etc, alot of work to do & mount on the front bar but smarter & better than anything out there. Thats a massive 600watts for just about 16,000lumens, but it's much more controlled & useful & enjoyable. It will be years until
    someone starts making LED that looks like halogen, there is "Amber" LED but it's a sick joke & looks awful.
    Some strange claims here, not sure what you think is a worthwhile option or what you run? What halogen lights have you had issues with? No answers to any of your claims which is a shmae as there's nothing wrong with disagreeing, but some more info would be handy rather than just bagging something out for the sake of it. I don't run FYRLYT's - only because I don't have anything to bolt them too but I have seen them in action from the passenger seat of several vehicles and I haven't seen better to be honest. I have a set of Ralley 4000's that are very good (and don't leak either), but the FYRLYT's are better IMO. Aircraft landing lights as you say aren't practical, whereas units actually designed for vehicles are - funny about that huh? 600 watts for a modern vehicle (if you did want to go overboard and stick 6 x 100 watt lamps on your car but no idea why you'd do that) is nothing - 50 amps - easy as. I have LED on my work ute - they are ok, but useless if it's even slightly foggy or a hint of rain as the reflection is unbearable and they don't have anywhere near the distance of my 4000's. Horses for courses I guess, but for me I prefer halogen and if I had the need at any stage a set of FYRLYT's would be high on my list.


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    This:


    Had less useful lighting than this


    And this

    I spent several hours out on dusty highway and cannot agree with any claims of eye fatigue, certainly the best CRI out there at the moment, no glare back (bright and glare are very different) and no Tindal effect issues.

    Useful light was from almost directly in front of the vehicle out beyond 800m (beyond needed) with a spread out across the highways at least 50m either side.
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    Well Storm Camper. Looks like it's your turn to show us ......don't tell us.....your setup and compare it with photos against say Tombies setup.

    He has put up here many times and has thousands of posts here as well.

    I think we are all interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar View Post
    Some strange claims here, not sure what you think is a worthwhile option or what you run? What halogen lights have you had issues with? No answers to any of your claims which is a shmae as there's nothing wrong with disagreeing, but some more info would be handy rather than just bagging something out for the sake of it. I don't run FYRLYT's - only because I don't have anything to bolt them too but I have seen them in action from the passenger seat of several vehicles and I haven't seen better to be honest. I have a set of Ralley 4000's that are very good (and don't leak either), but the FYRLYT's are better IMO. Aircraft landing lights as you say aren't practical, whereas units actually designed for vehicles are - funny about that huh? 600 watts for a modern vehicle (if you did want to go overboard and stick 6 x 100 watt lamps on your car but no idea why you'd do that) is nothing - 50 amps - easy as. I have LED on my work ute - they are ok, but useless if it's even slightly foggy or a hint of rain as the reflection is unbearable and they don't have anywhere near the distance of my 4000's. Horses for courses I guess, but for me I prefer halogen and if I had the need at any stage a set of FYRLYT's would be high on my list.
    I have been driving in the bush for work and recreation for 50+ yrs, in vehicles with various configurations and technologies of spot lights. I do a lot of long distance driving - much of it at night.

    My current ride has had a set of FyrLyt Nemesis 9000s for 4 yrs and 150,000+ km. They are AWESOME!

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    I also have a Fyrlyt spot light on my boat, the 12v one - equally AWESOME. Never seen anything like it!

    The Nemesis 9000s had some issues with the glass - now fixed. After sales service was second to none.

    My only complain is that they are so bright and penetrate so far, that when you dim them itís like plunging into the black hole of Calcutta.

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