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    1959 Thames

    Needing a break from land rovers, the next project after Sid is a ‘59 Thames van.


    This was pulled from a yard in Burra in the north of South Australia, but sign writing in the door suggests it was the shop truck at the Hamley Bridge garage.

    It appears to have been mechanically well maintained but was abandoned after a minor front end shunt that broke the windscreen and messed with the drivers door.

    Sid was pretty rust free and parts are a plenty. This is neither of those things.

    A few pics on the 400e owners group brought a mixture of laughs, pity and morbid curiosity.

    Tear down day


    The chassis and mechanicals are all there and just surface rust. Barely used any heat, just penetrating oil. The chassis is immaculate.

    Dropped the gearbox, it’s very ‘ickle’ , such a change working on something you can pick up with one hand…!!

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    Tear down continues. It’s a strange one.

    Pulled the engine which was seized when we dragged the van out of the yard. No plugs, 30 years of sitting, no surprise.

    Strip down was a dream, all bolts came out without a single issue, even the exhaust manifold.

    So kept going, and then I’ve found the real problem that took the van off the road.

    It looks like the head gasket went and the #2 cylinder water locked and it bent con rod and smashed the piston.

    I’ve stripped the rest of the block, the rest of the pistons came out easily, the bores are pretty good, there are no gouges in the #2 bore.

    As to the crank, in can only measure it at the main bearings and they are spot on, so if it’s damaged then it’s on the journals and I can’t measure that.

    It’s a conundrum. This is the numbers matching original’59.

    I’ve been toying with swapping the engine out for ax modern engine for drivability, but the niggle is that this is original.

    Think I’ll send it to the machine shop for testing while I look and see if I can find a modern engine that will fit.

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    From what you are describing, there would seem to be a good case for keeping it original. But then, it is not a vehicle I would restore even in my wildest dreams, so don't pay any attention to my advice!
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    Modern engine? Something from Ford’s Kent series?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    Modern engine? Something from Ford’s Kent series?
    No idea at the moment. I was initially thinking a 4 pot ford of later vintage that would fit the very tight engine bay.

    Now I’m thinking something like a modern Japanese unit with an auto box

    But that means engineering.

    At the moment I’m scratching around for options.

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    What about the 2.2 litre Ford Diesel and auto out of a ranger.

    Not that popular so should be reasonably priced.

    Also a Landrover motor
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    Space….

    The engine compartment is tiny. There’s a great blog by a bloke trying this very thing and he bought 3 Japanese mid 80’s mini vans and nothing fit.

    The design of the exhaust manifold is the key, it’s a simple pipe with holes cut in the side that clamps in the side of the cylinder head.

    I’ve a spare 2.25 and there’s no way that’s going to fit.

    If anyone has an old consul, zephyr or similar engine lying about… let me know!

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    You could always mount an engine and box in the rear 1959 Thames

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    What about a Honda Crx (83-91) B16A1

    Honda make brilliant engines - being a 1.6 it’s probably small enough AND smaller displaced than the original donk? (Would that nake enguneering easier?)

    That’s if the original donk is cactus.
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    That’s the sort of thing I was thinking about. If they came with an auto box might be an option

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