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    Isuzu C240 powered Series 3

    I collected the Series 3 yesterday.
    The gearbox is out because the flywheel had cracked and a new one has to be made to suit. It came with an SG iron casting, just need to work out the dimensions and start machining.

    DSCN1195 by Colin Radley, on Flickr

    DSCN1200 by Colin Radley, on Flickr

    It came with loads of spares including a new radiator, new doortops, paint, s/h wing outer panels, gearbox & transfer box, shock absorbers etc. etc.\
    I had to make a second trip to collect all the spares.

    DSCN1214 by Colin Radley, on Flickr

    DSCN1240 by Colin Radley, on Flickr

    Once the flywheel is sorted out I can check out the motor. Has slightly less horsepower than the LR 2.25 diesel so it's going to be a slow but economical driver.
    The C240 motor seems to have been used in forklifts & stationary marine applications (ideal Land Rover conversion !)


    Colin
    Last edited by gromit; 24th July 2017 at 06:11 PM.
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    '60 SII 109 ute (gone)
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C

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    The guy who sold me the S3 called it 'Wallet' (Wallit ?)
    He couldn't make up his mind whether to call it Wallace or Gromit, plus he claimed he was always spending money on it

    On a run it was under 9litres per hundred but he did warn me that it was lacking in acceleration.....

    A quick look last night didn't throw up too many surprises. The spare wing outer panels have holes drilled round the edge where flares were fitted so I may need replacement wing outers or I'll try panel beating the existing panels. Bulkhead is excellent, chassis is excellent interior is worn but good, dashboard will need recovering at some point.
    Drivers seat is a highback but not sure if I'll get a roadworthy with this fitted.

    The window boxes (doortops) need to be looked at fairly soon. There is some rust in the door framework that will also have to be fixed.

    It has LWB brakes fitted which is a bonus and some serious sound deadening panels in the footwells (maybe the Isuzu is a bit noisy ?). Machining the flywheel is the first issue then I have to rebuild the gearbox. The spare gearbox has high ratio transfer gears, probably not suited to the Isuzu but could be handy if I go 200Tdi in the future.

    I just need to work out where this one fits with all the other projects.....


    Colin
    Last edited by gromit; 4th June 2012 at 07:36 PM. Reason: Typo
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    '60 SII 109 ute (gone)
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C

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    Here's a pic of the Isuzu motor.

    DSCN1197 by Colin Radley, on Flickr


    Colin
    Last edited by gromit; 24th July 2017 at 06:18 PM.
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    '60 SII 109 ute (gone)
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C

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    Looks like the flywheel will be machined at work one Saturday soon.
    I just have to confirm a few dimensions (every night this week it's been raining when I get home). I need to work out exactly where the spigot bush needs to be positioned in the flywheel (yes, I know it goes in the middle !) because the original was too damaged to gain any useful information.
    I also have to borrow a big micrometer to get the interference fit right for the ring gear.

    I'll then have to get it balanced, anyone know a company in Melbourne, preferably Eastern Suburbs ?

    The flywheel only has holes for the Land Rover pressure plate and the adapter looks reasonably well made. Would this have been a kit someone sold years ago to fit the Isuzu into a Land Rover ? If so, does anyone have any ideas who might have made them ?


    Colin
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    '60 SII 109 ute (gone)
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C

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    I had a rodeo with a C190.bullet proof.bother sold the engine after years of farm work to someone after a generator engine.these over the years had loads of adaptor kits but there was a load of different versions of the C engine including the thermo king versions.

    the KBD26 was the vac controledthrottle type inline injector pump.

    with the bull roar radiator fan in drove like it had an anchor and when cold it was harder.I found a visco fan for a shuttle van.then drove like it had a supercharger.

    from the picture it looks like a 4 blade fan from a TLD or ELF truck.

    on the side of the pump was a mixture start control.it had a cable conected to the stop/start cable motor.the idea was at low temperatures the timing/mixture was altered.the lever on the pump fitted into a spring loaded plate that would hold the lever till the cable moved to a run possition.
    if it got stuck in the wrong spot it would go like the clappers[for a 1.9 NA diesel] and blow black smoke.

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    I was told it's a C240 Elf motor.
    Lots to learn about it but first need to get a flywheel so that I can at least start it. It hasn't run for a few years so I'm hoping that it's OK, previous owner thinks its done over 300,000 Kms so fingers crossed.


    Colin
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    '60 SII 109 ute (gone)
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C

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    I managed to find & speak to the man that made the conversion today.

    It crossed my mind to look for the original supplier and see if they still had spares for the kit.

    I emailed Marks 4wd and Dellow Conversions.
    I had a call earlier today from Jeff Dellow. Turns out they made the conversions about 30 years ago, they also fitted a lot of the Isuzu C240's into Commodore taxis.
    Unfortunately he didn't have any parts left and also doesn't have drawings either, if he had he was more than happy to send them to me. Good old fashioned service......

    Colin
    Last edited by gromit; 7th June 2012 at 02:51 PM. Reason: typo
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    '60 SII 109 ute (gone)
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C

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    At least that grille is good for a BBQ.

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    had a VB comodore SLE auto drove into a muffler shop as I was waiting.the owner of the shop called me over to share his entertainment as he explained to the young owner that it was a diesel.

    a teenage surfer with victorian number plates was qld bound.
    the driver came in because it was there first buisness hour stop of the trip and the car was very noisey.it had no muffler and resonated at higher revs.the factory style round filter was moulded into the radiator shroud.them we looked and complience plates looked as if it may have been fitted from newas engine model number wasnt stamped.

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    Motor will be okay off road, but it will struggle on road with series gearing.

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