What engine? Series III

Hello All,

I was given this list of diesel motors for a Series III Land Rovers from a mechanic who had a Land Rover repair business, it might be of some help...
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G'day Lionel,

The best replacement for a Land Rover diesel is a Land Rover diesel! It truly is that simple. Here is a list of options,

2.25lt diesel will bolt straight in but hard to find and a little on the slow side, can be turboed but really needs to be the five bearing block in order to get the longevity out of it.

Isuzu
1. 4BB1, good conversion but hard to find.
2. 4BD1, good conversion but hard to find.
3. 4BD1-T, turbo version, good conversion but hard to find.

Land Rover
200Tdi, bolt straight in, hard to find but you get a turbo
300Tdi, fiddly to fit but will, easy to find and you get a turbo

Nissan
ED23, not easy to fit but will, shouldn’t be too difficult to find

Toyota
L-Series, not easy to fit but will, shouldn’t be too difficult to find, turbo and non-turbo versions available
Toyota B-Series, not easy to fit but will, unsure of availability

Nissan SD33, run away, run quickly, scream loudly!

Regards Jack

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Oh and my second Land Rover I bought has a Nissan SD 33 in it and the first Land Rover I bought was off Jack, who is the bloke who provided me with this list. No I did not have this list of alternatives before I bought my second ute!

I hope this list is of some help and does not add further to your dilemma

Kind Regards
Lionel

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Originally Posted by Lionelgee

Hello All,

I was given this list of diesel motors for a Series III Land Rovers from a mechanic who had a Land Rover repair business, it might be of some help...
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G'day Lionel,

The best replacement for a Land Rover diesel is a Land Rover diesel! It truly is that simple. Here is a list of options,

2.25lt diesel will bolt straight in but hard to find and a little on the slow side, can be turboed but really needs to be the five bearing block in order to get the longevity out of it.

Isuzu
1. 4BB1, good conversion but hard to find.
2. 4BD1, good conversion but hard to find.
3. 4BD1-T, turbo version, good conversion but hard to find.

Land Rover
200Tdi, bolt straight in, hard to find but you get a turbo
300Tdi, fiddly to fit but will, easy to find and you get a turbo

Nissan
ED23, not easy to fit but will, shouldn’t be too difficult to find

Toyota
L-Series, not easy to fit but will, shouldn’t be too difficult to find, turbo and non-turbo versions available
Toyota B-Series, not easy to fit but will, unsure of availability

Nissan SD33, run away, run quickly, scream loudly!

Regards Jack

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Oh and my second Land Rover I bought has a Nissan SD 33 in it and the first Land Rover I bought was off Jack, who is the bloke who provided me with this list. No I did not have this list of alternatives before I bought my second ute!

I hope this list is of some help and does not add further to your dilemma

Kind Regards
Lionel

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No mention there of the 4JB1T and 4JG2T. Both easy to find and easy to fit using adaptor kits from the UK.

And to correct your statement, there are much better and more reliable replacement options than LR diesels. The Td5 is the strongest diesel engine LR have made, and it has also been missed out from the above list.

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Originally Posted by isuzurover

No mention there of the 4JB1T and 4JG2T. Both easy to find and easy to fit using adaptor kits from the UK.

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CORRECT. Both are cheap, easy to find, and have nice simple mechanical injector pumps with boost compensators.

The UK adapter kits are around BP350 if I recall correctly.

Very high on my list for my Defender diesel conversion.

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Originally Posted by isuzurover

No mention there of the 4JB1T and 4JG2T. Both easy to find and easy to fit using adaptor kits from the UK.

And to correct your statement, there are much better and more reliable replacement options than LR diesels. The Td5 is the strongest diesel engine LR have made, and it has also been missed out from the above list.

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G'day Isuzurover,

It was a list given to me by a person who knows a lot more about Land Rovers than I do (which is not much) and the list was given as the mechanic's own opinion. It is not exhaustive but could and did add suggestions into the mix.

It is something which you have now contributed to as well. All the bits can be added up and will provide a more thorough picture.

There are also options like the Mercedes Diesel that the American engineer has pioneered and there is a long thread about on the internet. Until the bloke had enough of arm chair experts and he pulled the pin on contributing. He still makes the conversion.

Kind Regards
Lionel

Hello All

I found the link I had to the conversion of a 6 cylinder petrol into a Mercedes OM617 that was done by Robert Davis A.K.A. posts by (rdavisinva). The thread is pages long and took me hours to read. Then at the last message just as the conversion was about to be finished Mr Davis - quite rightly pulled the pin as the thread descended into personal attacks. Despite the untimely end to this thread it still has lots of step by step information about the conversion and it was completed into a final product which is available - in the US of A that is. I revisited the site and found the original thread still works ... http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php't=852955&highlight=om617+land+rover The contributions by rdavisinva start on page 5 of 23. The vehicles featured are Series III 109 and some Discos.

Kind Regards
Lionel

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Originally Posted by isuzurover

No mention there of the 4JB1T and 4JG2T. Both easy to find and easy to fit using adaptor kits from the UK.

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What were the 4JB1T and 4JG2T, what were they fitted to and what capacity are they?

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Originally Posted by Series3 GT

What were the 4JB1T and 4JG2T, what were they fitted to and what capacity are they?

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Hello Series 3 GT,

I did a quick internet search and found some mentions of the two engines - this is not an exhaustive search ...

The 4JH1 is a 3.0 L direct injection engine; turbo intercooled which replaced the 4JB1T in the Faster/Rodeo pickups. This vehicle was sold as the Holden Rodeo in New Zealand and Australia. Accessed Wednesday, June 13, 2012 from Wikipedia under a the search of List of Isuzu engines.

The 4JG2T is from the Holden Jackaroo/Isuzu Moo 4JG2T Accessed Wednesday, June 13, 2012 from Holden Jackaroo/Isuzu Moo 4JG2T (94UT) IHI VICD - Turbochargers OEM, Holden - MTQ Sonic - Sonic Performance

These engines are also fitted to other vehicles in Australia - not sure of the capacity of the 4JG2T - I found one mention of 3.1 Litres (?). I have no connections to any company or reference referred to in this thread either.

Kind Regards
Lionel

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Originally Posted by Series3 GT

What were the 4JB1T and 4JG2T, what were they fitted to and what capacity are they?

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2.8L and 3.1L

Fitted to holden jackaroos and rodeos, (so millions of them around) as well as isuzu trucks and 2nd hand imports like MUs.

Great replies guys, cheers.

Short of emailing the manufacturers, I can't seem to find much more information on the mounting templates and engine sizes.

Also Lionel, what's with the referencing of the webpages. I don't think I've EVER seen that on a forum!

Will keep looking and trying to find answers.

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Originally Posted by AAFitArm

Great replies guys, cheers.

Short of emailing the manufacturers, I can't seem to find much more information on the mounting templates and engine sizes.

Also Lionel, what's with the referencing of the webpages. I don't think I've EVER seen that on a forum!

Will keep looking and trying to find answers.

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Hello AAFitArm,

I can't help it as it is an occupational hazard - I am a researcher. :)

Kind Regards
Lionel