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    Vanguard Into S1

    I have a mate who's just obtained a LWB Series 1 with a Vanguard engine.

    When he gives me some more info, I'll post it up.

    Perry
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    I suspect that it was a not uncommon conversion at the time. Rover did look at putting the Vanguard diesel into the Series 1, but concluded that it was unsuitable, although I am not sure why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numpty View Post
    I have a mate who's just obtained a LWB Series 1 with a Vanguard engine.

    When he gives me some more info, I'll post it up.

    Perry
    Humm, maybe I should have pinched more than the battery out of my TR for my little truck

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    Grey Fergie TEA20 had a Vanguard engine. It was Standard fit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avion8 View Post
    Grey Fergie TEA20 had a Vanguard engine. It was Standard fit!
    And they had the same Lucas dissy as the 80", but the cap was the opposite hand.

    You sometimes see Fergy caps on Landies and vice versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avion8 View Post
    Grey Fergie TEA20 had a Vanguard engine. It was Standard fit!
    Almost. The engine design is similar but there are a number of differences.

    I have been told this by both Fergie owners (of which I am one) and Vanguard owners.

    My mates S1 is a 1955 107 with a Vanguard 6 in it and is possibly ex DCA.
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    I believe the straight petrol engine version is exactly the same as the Vanguard, whilst the petrol paraffin engine has a larger displacement to cope with the lower power output due to the lowered compression ratio required to run on paraffin. Mine is I believe the latter as it has the split fuel tank, but I just run it on unleaded. Might run well on Jet-A1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avion8 View Post
    I believe the straight petrol engine version is exactly the same as the Vanguard, whilst the petrol paraffin engine has a larger displacement to cope with the lower power output due to the lowered compression ratio required to run on paraffin. Mine is I believe the latter as it has the split fuel tank, but I just run it on unleaded. Might run well on Jet-A1?
    I am only going on information received from people who know more about these things than I.

    I might endeavour to find out what the differences are and post up here.
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    I don't suppose you've seen the vehicle yet. I only ask as 35 years ago one of my friends brothers had a 107 with a vanguard engine in it. It was a blue hardtop with timber slats for seats & was located on the northern beaches in Sydney.

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    the vanguard was 2088 cc four cyl and a good engine, but when tired or thrashed had a propensity to throw a leg out of bed no 3 usually, but how would I know?
    my '49 vang was tireless worker with bags of power for the size of the car and was a genuine 100 mph motor car in those days, but it needed to be told what to do.
    it had high ground clearance and would have gone everywhere a series one in two wheel drive could go, I guess it may have been a good swap when the s1 engine got tired, but also I suppose the vang engine would have come from a tired vang, as the s1 engine would have gone ok for many years before some people needed to replace their engines.
    I did know a chap that fitted a ford v8 to a 49/50 vang, it went pretty well.
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