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    Quote Originally Posted by wardy1 View Post
    Well Trout, in Vic they canít apply any of those things. And BTW, I WASNT SPEEDING.
    Are you saying that there is NO mandatory sentencing for driving under the influence in VIC? and BTW I didn't say YOU were speeding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    Any judge that awards a "
    no conviction, no suspension and no fine" for someone found guilty of DD is breaking the law.
    What a lot of crap - if the law allows it then no law is broken - magistrates can only give decisions that are within the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    What a lot of crap - if the law allows it then no law is broken - magistrates can only give decisions that are within the law.
    With Mandatory sentencing there is a minimum sentence that HAS to be applied Judges are NOT allowed to hand out a lesser sentence than the minimum allowable by Law.
    So its NOT "A load of Crap"
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    You said "Any judge that awards a "no conviction, no suspension and no fine" for someone found guilty of DD is breaking the law."

    You made no mention of mandatory sentencing.

    Sorry but that is statement is crap - in the ACT and in many other jurisdiction you can be found guilty of DUI and not have a conviction recorded, no suspension and no fine and the Judge is not breaking the law. Generally occurs with a first offence, very low range, good driving record, good attitude and pleading guilty in court.


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    [QUOTE=trout1105;2764518]The reason why DD and speeding are targeted by the Police is because the Vast majority of Australians are sick and tired of the knob heads that have No regard for the safety of others on our roads by driving drunk and speeding.

    You're missing my point and I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree in this debate as well as tastes in beer

    I wasn't suggesting there shouldn't be any focus on speeding or drink driving. My point is that there is very little enforcement of other things that 'the vast majority of Australians are sick and tired of', because they're more difficult to enforce. As per my previous posts, I'd prefer to be on the roads with someone who is driving 10kph over the speed limit or driving at 0.05 BAC if they're concentrating than with someone who isn't even watching the road. Would have been a very different outcome for the person I know of if she had hit a kid crossing the road rather than cleaning up roadworks whilst texting... As a motorcyclist, this sort of inattention is alarming. One thing I like about fixed speed cameras is that they can catch out inattentive people, so I guess that's one way that inattention is enforced... Having said that, distracted people are often under the speed limit...but 'directionally challenged'...and even 55kph in the wrong direction and with no attention to do much braking is pretty dangerous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    The reason why DD and speeding are targeted by the Police is because the Vast majority of Australians are sick and tired of the knob heads that have No regard for the safety of others on our roads by driving drunk and speeding.

    You're missing my point and I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree in this debate as well as tastes in beer

    I wasn't suggesting there shouldn't be any focus on speeding or drink driving. My point is that there is very little enforcement of other things that 'the vast majority of Australians are sick and tired of', because they're more difficult to enforce. As per my previous posts, I'd prefer to be on the roads with someone who is driving 10kph over the speed limit or driving at 0.05 BAC if they're concentrating than with someone who isn't even watching the road. Would have been a very different outcome for the person I know of if she had hit a kid crossing the road rather than cleaning up roadworks whilst texting... As a motorcyclist, this sort of inattention is alarming. One thing I like about fixed speed cameras is that they can catch out inattentive people, so I guess that's one way that inattention is enforced... Having said that, distracted people are often under the speed limit...but 'directionally challenged'...and even 55kph in the wrong direction and with no attention to do much braking is pretty dangerous!
    I agree with you about the other actions other than speeding and drink driving that add to the carnage on our roads
    not beingas high a profile and just as dangerous but that doesn't mean that these other issues are being ignored by the police.
    Phone usage, inattention, and hooning are also major contributors to the road carnage But they are a lot more difficult to police so the vast majority of offenders evade prosecution.
    It is much easier to charge and successfully prosecute drink drivers and speeding drivers because of the tools available (Speed camera's, radar and breathalysers) than it is to say charge and prosecute someone for using their phone whilst driving at the moment.
    The proliferation of dashcam usage is helping to address some of these other problems But I agree that More has to be done to stop this behaviour.
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