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    Quote Originally Posted by weeds View Post
    I was gobbed smacked that they gave me my full 12 points back.
    Why? You lost your licence. That was the penalty for accruing the points. Penalty served, a clean slate ensues. Standard practice in all jurisdictions I have encountered.

    As for the WO, you would have been better off with a Sgt. WOs are usually way to up themselves, especially if they are aa CSM, or worse, RSM. You would have been even better off if the Army hadn't got involved at all; well, that's how it was in my day.
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    So since I moved to Melbourne I accumulated 11 demerits within 2 months due to not knowing cameras were under the bridge (my fault) all in the 110 not one fine on my motorbike R1. I got one more point and have opted for double or nothing. Only got myself to blame, but yes disproportionate.
    I was run over on my motorbike at a red light by a truck. He got 6 month ban and $500 fine for dangerous driving. He got 6 months jail for something else (drug/thieving).

    In Perth I lost my bike for a month and got a 6 month ban but could apply after a month for an 'extraordinary' license. I'm in the CFA also so if I lost my license I'd likely lose my job or have to use my long service at half pay and wouldn't be able to turn out to jobs.

    That's my feelings on the matter, but hey my fault. Still don't like seeing some ****bag beat and assault someone and get off with a small fine whereas speed and accumulate demerits and you get treated worse than a junkie conducting a home invasion.

    So moral of the story commit serious crime, keep your license. Speed a little bit often enough and get your livelihood taken away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeds View Post
    I believe some time ago in QLD you could apply for a licence to get yourself to work and back only.

    Not sure how factual is was.
    IIRC there was/is an option for loss of licence for X amount of time or go on to the very restrictive work licence for double that amount of time. It wasn't a given but on a case by case basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mekon76 View Post

    That's my feelings on the matter, but hey my fault. Still don't like seeing some ****bag beat and assault someone and get off with a small fine whereas speed and accumulate demerits and you get treated worse than a junkie conducting a home invasion.
    That particular statement resonates in Victoria at the moment. It could, and should, bring down a Government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johntins View Post
    Why? You lost your licence. That was the penalty for accruing the points. Penalty served, a clean slate ensues. Standard practice in all jurisdictions I have encountered.

    As for the WO, you would have been better off with a Sgt. WOs are usually way to up themselves, especially if they are aa CSM, or worse, RSM. You would have been even better off if the Army hadn't got involved at all; well, that's how it was in my day.
    I only lost my licence for 1hr.....handed it in when I arrived and 1hr later I was walking out with full points.

    Re: army sending somebody along, I didn’t have a say.....well I tried to explain I didn’t want any assistance but as always they know better. He was GE WO although the CSM made the call, he did assist me with a military charge around the same time ((five of us charged, one spent 14 days Jail, one CPL had a strip removed, the other CPL lost seniority (served him self right for dobbing us in), me and the other crafty found not guilty))

    I would have been happy with a fellow crafty to drive me in, wait in the car park, than we could have goofed off in the city before heading back to the barracks.

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    Wardy - A friend of mine got busted mid year - good driving record and over .05 - but less than you. Was expecting a criminal record, $750 fine and 2 months suspension. However in some cases of good driving records magistrates can record a no conviction, no fine and no disqualification. Still goes on your driving record though.

    My friend was lucky enough to receive the the no conviction etc but it did cost him $1500 for the solicitor - I suggest you get one and discuss options before court etc and ask for mercy on the basis of your good driving record - possibly even a recorded conviction and a good behaviour bond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeds View Post
    I only lost my licence for 1hr.....handed it in when I arrived and 1hr later I was walking out with full points.
    OK, that is a bit weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wardy1 View Post
    In October last year I was caught at an RBT. I Blew 0.086. I had enjoyed 3 glasses of white wine 2 hours before. A warning to all, when we drink at home (according to the officer), the drinks we drink are substantially larger than those we may be served at a licensed establishment. Most he says are nearly double a standard drink. So effectively I may have had 6 standard drinks...... over the period of time, most of us would say we’re ok right?

    WRONG

    Now I’m prepared to cop what is coming to me, which will be a 6mth cancellation plus a fine. I’m not denying the charge. The reason for posting this is totally separate from this.

    As a consequence of a conviction/cancellation I will lose my job. In Victoria there is no “licence to work”, which means I lose my job immediately. This in turn means zero income which in turn means that I will lose the place I live. Many here know that I’m single these days so there is no other income to pay the bills. Hence, I lose my home and whatever else.

    I see people who have committed crimes against others or property and they get good behaviour bonds etc. I commit a Minor offence and stand to lose the lot!

    Is this fair? Is it justice?

    BTW, I’ve been driving almost 44 years and never had more than a speeding fine <10k over.

    Until it happens to you, you don’t think too much about it I guess, but the penalty I now face seems way outside the crime.
    Interested to hear your opinions
    Thank you for your post, could be a wake up call for some, particularly your comment re the larger glasses at home.
    The punishment & subsequent ramifications you are expecting are, IMHO, way over the top, particularly when looking at the "punishment" (is that what you call it?) being handed out in Vic courts these days for assaults, home invasions, hoon traffic offenses etc...as I have continually mentioned in my "Law & Order" thread.
    I believe you good driving, & nil other "history" over a long period, should be taken into account.
    I've heard of Sean Hardy, and I know that He specializes in these matters....his father was also a barrister.
    I know nothing about the law, but I would DEFINITELY advise you to see this man.
    Thank you for your post, your honesty, and I hope that you will have a better ending to this matter than what you are expecting.
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    I'm with a few others. Get some help, and go to court. Around 3 years ago I got caught up in Victoria's annual crack down on trucks. After an hour and a half, the Police involved found 6 Work Diary breaches. Not DUI, I know, but carrying severe fines, as they were summons offences, not on the spot. I had a potential of over $10K hanging over me. Nearly 12 months later I went to Dandenong Magistrate's Court. I didn't have a Lawyer, but I'm pretty good in those situations for some reason. Before court I spoke with the prosecutor, who is NOT the charging officer. I got one charge dropped. When the Court sat, I explained my situation to the Magistrate, and pointed out that making mistakes in Diary entries did not put anyone at risk. I got fined $1,000, as he said I had to cop something. I paid on the spot and skedaddled.

    I know the offences are different, but my point is, Magistrates are human. If you present well and show contrition, point out your good record it may go well for you. Seek legal advice ASAP.

    I wish you luck with it.
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    If I may (add $0.02)
    I accidentally blew 0.056 in about '06.
    I spoke bluntly (albeit respectfully) with the judge.
    The guy in front of me (same charge - same range) was a disrespecting tool.
    Outcome - 3mth suspension in NsW. Him - 9 mth disqual.
    (Difference was I got P's back after 90days, he started back on L's)

    Anyway; positively/hopefully/wishfully, maybe you could present a P&L statement to accompany your driving record and request a good behaviour bond to accompany a fine that will match the financial burden you are about to experience. In addition you might articulate how you retaining your current employment is good for queen and country ( employer/government/economy etc)

    Sincerely, Adam

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