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  1. #11
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    Hello All,

    I just checked the battery that I bought for my 2.25 litre diesel for the 1976 LWB ute I own.The battery looks approximately the same size as the frame in Teddy that I saw this afternoon. My old battery is a Century 12V 540CCA 57.

    The dimensions of the 540CCA 57 are:

    Length: 231mm
    Width: 171mm
    Height: 184mm
    Total Height: 208mm

    While the N70ZZ is shown as:
    Length: 306mm
    Width: 171mm
    Height: 201mm
    Total Height: 222mm

    Just going off the size of the battery frame alone - it looks like it leaning towards the 540CCA 57.

    Going off the size of a battery frame is pretty bodgey - however, there was no battery in the vehicle. I would like to have a go at getting the engine started when I pick it up. With the shorty currently sitting on another property having an engine number that would help nail the battery down is a luxury I do not currently have. At least I know it will fit into my Series 3 4 cylinder!

    Kind Regards
    Lionel

  2. #12
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    The correct battery for a Toyota B , 3B is a N70Z or most Toyotas & LandRovers for that matter, dosen't really matter does not mean you need the correct battery . I even have a N70ZZ in my Iveco.
    The biggest battery you can get to fit the battery holder will work. These engines need a good 30 seconds on the glow plugs before they start . & a can of "start ya bastard" will help too.

    The engine number is on the top of the block between cylinders 1 and 2 , you should be able to see it looking down through the inlet manifold .

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    Hello All,

    I am kicking myself about not taking more photographs of the engine. Then again buying another Land Rover was not on my radar when I woke up this morning.

    I do recall that the dip stick was all metal - not a plastic yellow handle like I have seen on some YouTube videos of Toyota diesel motors. Plus the dip stick was closer to the firewall than what I have seen on videos. The difference could mean an older version of the motor.

    Damn I have to wait a full week before I can go for a drive to check it out. Patience is not one of my virtues!

    Thank you for the tip about where the engine number is Going Bush.

    Kind Regards
    Lionel
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    Hello All,

    A couple of firsts for me when I have bought a Land Rover Series vehicle:
    All the seats are there - okay slightly chewed on their tops
    It has a jack.
    Has a roll bar fitted
    Has a Safari roof
    It is 21 inches shorter than any of my other Land Rovers
    Modifications have been officially "Blue Plated"
    Plus, it has one of these things ...

    Kind Regards
    Lionel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionelgee View Post
    Hello All.

    Thanks to Don's diligence I am off searching for more information about the hubs. A Jeep forum had a copy of a 1968 advertisement for what looks like a match to the one I snapped a photograph of. As my photograph shows it looks like Teddy's hubs need some seal work done to it too. The photograph of the 1968 brochure was sourced from 1968 Cutlass Locking hubs Brochure - Jeep Willys World on May 12, 2018.

    More chasing up on Toyota diesels. The spooky thing is that when I drove back into town from my adventures to buy some dinner there was a very pristine 1980-90 Toyota Hilux right next to where I parked. A Toyota 2.4D. With the benefit of time I remember driving one when I was with Ipswich City Council Parks and Gardens some time in the late 1980s.

    Can anyone give me some hints where Toyota diesel engine numbers lurk?

    After that - what size batteries do they use? Teddy is currently battery-less. From the look of the battery frame it is a lot smaller that the Century N70ZZ 4wd battery I have on hand.

    Thanks you for the assistance.

    Kind Regards
    Lionel
    Hi Lionel.
    I have the same type of hub on the rear of the 6x6 but mine are made by Shute Upton. The seal is a simple O ring and easy to replace.
    I also had them on my 1963 Woomera ambulance that I went around Oz in back in 67 . They seemed a good hub, simple and gave no trouble.
    Here is a link to an old thread. Removing Free Wheeling Hubs and Taking Back to Original
    Just remember that both cams have to be turned so both arrows are in or out. If only one is engaged the housing is likely to fracture.

    Good Luck .
    Keith

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    I run a 92 Dyna 200 with the 3lt B series engine as my work truck so you can have a squiz at that if it help ID what you have although, as GB said engine number answers all.
    PaulT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionelgee View Post
    G'day Paul,

    Funny how there was something on my "To Do" list that escaped me for a while. What was it? Hmmm - it was to contact Paul.

    Any plans for next weekend; or a tad thereafter?

    Kind Regards
    Lionel
    Next weekend (19th) is a SLOw trip to Cooyar but after that sometime is fine.
    PaulT

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    D1s, RRCs & 110
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    Nice find Lionel.

    Size isn't everything....The Shute Upton version of the freewheel hubs you have fitted is reputed to be quite weak. Locking hubs

    I think Shute Upton made the Power Lock hubs under licence.



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    pretty sure i have a brand new set in a box here somewhere

    just where may be the issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Lionelgee View Post
    Hello All.

    Thanks to Don's diligence I am off searching for more information about the hubs. A Jeep forum had a copy of a 1968 advertisement for what looks like a match to the one I snapped a photograph of. As my photograph shows it looks like Teddy's hubs need some seal work done to it too. The photograph of the 1968 brochure was sourced from 1968 Cutlass Locking hubs Brochure - Jeep Willys World on May 12, 2018.
    1995 Defender 130 Dualcab Ute

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  10. #20
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    Hello All,

    Well it is dark outside now; so that means one day closer to picking up Teddy .... I am patient ... I am patient...

    Kind Regards
    Lionel

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