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Aha, seems a few blokes on here are being lured in by the evil temptress P38.

Well boys, I hope you've got what it takes to be a P38 owner...... a fair bit of cash to throw at it and bucket loads of patience and good humour.

I also recommend getting a bus pass and an iPod.

They are beautiful cars but if I had a dollar for every time everything was all working at the same time, lets just say someone would have to shout me a coffee.

What is it today, oh yes the window mechanism is stuffed so when you close the drivers window it doesn't stop, the motor keeps going and it sound like you being shot at by a machine gun. Sadly though, you are not.

:D

Dave

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Originally Posted by LandyAndy

Pedro
Here is a link.Page3.
Julian Car Company - Wangara, Perth - Used Vehicles - Stocklist
Andrew

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Andrew,
I had a quick look at that car the other day while driving around for work. Looked nice at a quick glance. I tried to deal with Julian Car Co when I was buying mine, and the main seller there I found was quite rude to me, and his prices quite expensive. To give you an example, I bought mine privately for $17,500 which was a 2000 HSE 160,000kms.

I suspect the car advertised has had a minor prang at some stage being that the drivers fog light is smashed, the passenger one is from an earlier model, and the numberplate doesn't match the age of the vehicle. This generally means front end prang, parts replaced with cheapest available, and numberplate replaced because the old one was damaged. But that's just me being cautious.

PS, those fog light lenses are freaking expensive. Factor in around $300 for a replacement.

Good luck and let me know if you need a set of eyes in the big smoke ;)

Cheers,
Keels.

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Originally Posted by adm333

Aha, seems a few blokes on here are being lured in by the evil temptress P38.

They are beautiful cars but if I had a dollar for every time everything was all working at the same time, lets just say someone would have to shout me a coffee.

:D

Dave

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Please tell me it does not have to be that way.

I keep being scared off the idea of a P38 due to their reputation for lousy reliability and the fact it would be our only car.

Yet I an drawn back time and again.

I find myself believing that a 2001 or 2002 would be more reliable than the earlier ones.

What is worse is that I keep seeing them on the road being driven around, not on the back of tow trucks....

Today I took it as a personal insult when a black HSE went past with L plates on:(

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Originally Posted by adm333

Aha, seems a few blokes on here are being lured in by the evil temptress P38.

Well boys, I hope you've got what it takes to be a P38 owner...... a fair bit of cash to throw at it and bucket loads of patience and good humour.

I also recommend getting a bus pass and an iPod.

They are beautiful cars but if I had a dollar for every time everything was all working at the same time, lets just say someone would have to shout me a coffee.

What is it today, oh yes the window mechanism is stuffed so when you close the drivers window it doesn't stop, the motor keeps going and it sound like you being shot at by a machine gun. Sadly though, you are not.

:D

Dave

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Hey Dave
Ever owned a TD5 Disco,or any other Landy for that matter:D:D:D:D:D
They all are the same:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:
Andrew

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Originally Posted by black betty

Please tell me it does not have to be that way.

I keep being scared off the idea of a P38 due to their reputation for lousy reliability and the fact it would be our only car.

Yet I an drawn back time and again.

I find myself believing that a 2001 or 2002 would be more reliable than the earlier ones.

What is worse is that I keep seeing them on the road being driven around, not on the back of tow trucks....

Today I took it as a personal insult when a black HSE went past with L plates on:(

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There are a great many perishable components on a P38. I refer to rubber airbags, o'rings of all shapes and sizes, seals etc etc. All of these components need to be replaced over time, not distance. The time frame for replacing these bits is around ten years. If you buy a 2000 / 2001 model car that has not had these perishable components replaced then guess what.....they are about to show signs of wear and you will need to replace them. I believe that a big part of the "unreliability" reputation comes down to people not realising that these components simply need to be renewed, and before they cause bigger problems.

My P38 has been supremely reliable, with only 2 occasions where it let me down, both of which were understandable (flat battery etc).

However, I am a bit of a perfectionist and I make it a personal challenge to seek down every little niggly fault as soon as it shows and research it, understand it and fix it. If you are like this then the P38 is the perfect car for you. My point is that there is usually something of this nature to do. It can all be done very cheaply if you put in the time to find out how.

On the other hand if you are the sort of person who is not phased by little niggly things, then it could also work well.

Not trying to be negative, just trying to set a realistic expectation !!

:D

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Hey Dave
Ever owned a TD5 Disco,or any other Landy for that matter:D:D:D:D:D
They all are the same:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:
Andrew

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Let the record show that on the 12th July 2010, LandyAndy said "They are all the same".

:p

Yes - I owned a classic RR before this one.

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Originally Posted by adm333

seek down every little niggly fault as soon as it shows and research it, understand it and fix it. If you are like this then the P38 is the perfect car for you. My point is that there is usually something of this nature to do. It can all be done very cheaply if you put in the time to find out how.
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So true and dont be afraid of a car for sale with these unfixed faults. If you are confident you know the cause you could grab a bargain. If you arnt the hands on type I would advise anyone to chose another model.
My Thor HSE 2000MY with 180000k`s cost me 10k a year ago

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Z5aEoZj0rI8/TD...8/DSCF0703.JPG

I can stop looking a P38a Rangies for the time being.Picking a TD5 Defender xtreme up saturday!!!!
Andrew

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Originally Posted by LandyAndy

I can stop looking a P38a Rangies for the time being.Picking a TD5 Defender xtreme up saturday!!!!
Andrew

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...from one xtreme to the other... (pun definately intended) :D

Can't believe you were considering a V8 Rangie and decided on a TD5 Defender :p Totally different vehicle/setup/suspension/comfort but still a great truck and they look great with roof mount spotties and Angelina Jolie in the driver's seat...

Cheers, Paul.

Congratulations on the purchase.

I do need to keep my big mouth shut about owning a P38, 2 or 3 posts and it turns people off in droves.