P38 severe death wobble

**willem** · 6th January 2011, 12:07 PM

It's your Panhard rod bushes! I know. Trust me!

The Panhard rod is the big one that goes accross the car with one side linked to tthe body and the other to the axle assembly. Just replace those bushes - its not that hard - and its fixed. Use OEM rather than aftermarket stuff.

I know ... the same thing cured my constipation a few times before I worked it out. That was on an RRC but the principle is the same.

Willem

**PeterAllen** · 6th January 2011, 01:18 PM

Thanks Willem,
Is it possible to test if there is movement in the Panhard rod bushes in-situ before pulling down?

**PeterAllen** · 6th January 2011, 01:20 PM

When replacing the Panhard Rod bushes do you need to press them out? or will a suitable socket and hammer do the trick?

**bee utey** · 6th January 2011, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by PeterAllen

Thanks Willem,
Is it possible to test if there is movement in the Panhard rod bushes in-situ before pulling down?

By getting someone inside the car to operate the steering wheel and someone else being under the car to observe the movement......

**PeterAllen** · 6th January 2011, 01:26 PM

Thanks Bee utey. should they remain totally rigid when the steering is used and is the replacement items just a bush or is there other bits and pieces I should replace?

**bee utey** · 6th January 2011, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by PeterAllen

Thanks Bee utey. should they remain totally rigid when the steering is used and is the replacement items just a bush or is there other bits and pieces I should replace?

I haven't done one on a P38 so I am not exactly sure what is involved. Please diagnose as much as you can, and remember to read the manual a.k.a. RAVE available under "shop" at the top of the page. Then see if you have the tools/skill required and proceed. Otherwise take it to a trusted LR workshop.

**PeterAllen** · 6th January 2011, 01:55 PM

Just spoke to the guys at Davis Motorworks and they have them for $11 each. Said you need a press to get the oldies out but otherwise no drama. I'll weld up a press frame that I can use the hydraulic jack in (meaning to do it for ages) and see how I go but will check all steering linkages underneath before hand as advised.
Thanks for the advise and I'll let you know how it goes after the weekend

**willem** · 6th January 2011, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by PeterAllen

When replacing the Panhard Rod bushes do you need to press them out? or will a suitable socket and hammer do the trick?

I used a bench vice and a socket to push the old ones out, and just the vice to put them back. Just a normal 6" bench vice. They're not that tight.

Willem

**PeterAllen** · 6th January 2011, 03:41 PM

Thanks Willem,
I'll check it all out and give it a go at the weekend.

**PeterAllen** · 7th January 2011, 10:38 AM

As suspected by Willem and Bee Utey the bush on the Panhard Rod connecting to the chasis is shot. large amounts of movement at the joint when reviewed under the car and steering jerked around. You both certainly are spot on in the diagnosis. Got the bushes this morning and a 23mm socket for those bolts.
Willem, does the bolt on the axle side go into a threaded housing on the axle as for the life of me cannot see any nut sticking out anywhere although I had not removed the wheels and hadn't jacked the car and it may be hiding near the airbag. Any clues?

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