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It must happen often to some and never to others! I have never in nearly 4 years and 2 p38's had an eas fault! That includes a fully submerged p38 with water up to the dash!
I believe if you keep an eye on it and maintain as it should be there's less chance of a problem!
Cheers
Keithy
If I didn't drive mine for a few days / weeks would nearly always get a fault that had to be reset. Would drive about 10kms then get fault ( valve stuck open / shut) reset. Drive another 10kms ( compressor not working) reset. Usually fine for the rest of the day. When away & driven every day usually no faults. Behaved as it should. 95% sure problem was in the valve block but didn't get a round to fixing before I sold car.
Gary
I know LR changed the software from the Classics to the P38 to make it more 'durable' - what ever that means. But from what i've read, it seems that softfaults (ones where the lights go on, and it freezes itself at standard ride height) will reset themselves after you cycle the ignition. Not sure about hard faults (where your on the bumpstops).
From experience the ecu's are faily picky with height sensors, if the ecu gets a dodgy signal, it will hunt that sensor up and down to look for a plausable one. And yes, turn on the ignition with one unplugged, and it will know straight away, even with the door open and the ignition off.
However, and air leak needs to be pretty big before you get a fault. Normally you'll hear an air leak (out of a bag anyway) before the lights start their little dance.
Though I have to say, the people who hark on repeatedly about the system being unreliable haven't invested the time to get to know it and fix it. I haven't put a spanner to my classic eas in almost 4 years, and the new p38 since I bought it 6 months ago. It's operated completely underwater (on the classic) numerous times, and in searing desert heat in the sand no problems.
My 1994 Classic LSE has experienced some EAS problems but all were the result of use coupled with age. Two of the air bags were origonals until last year and the other two were replaced about 3 years ago. The compressor lasted for 17 years and was rebuilt last year. Two sensors also died but I don't know what happened to cause this.
There is no way that you could term the EAS system on my LSE as being unreliable in fact quite the opposite would apply. I would suggest that it is a very reliable and durable system.
Guy's I need Some help,
I have an EAS fault problem. Firstly all the lights on the EAS dash lit up and I couldnt manually change it. This continued for a couple of days then I lost the suspension. Called into a garage and the hooked it up to their computer erased the faults and 5the suspension rose again. All was well for 2 weeks then the same fault ocoured again.
Can someone give me an idea on what I need to be looking at as a fix.
Regards,
Bara
I have had mine for several years now. The only time I had a hard fault was caused by me in my learning stage. I had the camper in the caravan park at White Cliffs and unhitched the P38 to go site seeing. Got up next morning, backed the rangie up and had to use a shovel to dig a hole for the jockey wheel to roll into so I could hook up as the hitch on the camper was too high.
Connected up and of we went. Sometime later the EAS told me I had a fault and to slow down or everybody in Australia would die. Well, the message was a bit like that. It was riding up at standard height but I think it though the front and rear were different as I had obviously put the camper on before she came up to full pressure in the bags.
At Menindee the auto elec guy could do nothing so we camped for the night and of course she was on the bump stops by morning. Drove it to Broken Hill on the bump stops and nobody had the software to get into the system so send it home on the back of a truck with the camper behind the truck and me in a car all done to RACV Total Care. Love it. Took Ivan Clarke 5 minutes to hook up his system to release the code and all was back to normal.
Have since brought a unlock buddy or whatever it is called, the other system that you run from your computer and the system that you can pump up yourself all from Paul at Hardrange. Never had an issue since, but if I do I have the gear to get out of it now.
Jim
Hi Barabus, My second hand 1998 4.0 gave me much grief in the first year similar to the problems you describe. Main cause was a leaking airbag/s so I replaced the lot once I had diagnosed the problem. A secondary problem was that because the compressor was running for an abnormally long period and getting hot it sometimes shut down. Had to clear faults then wait until the compressor had cooled down enough to continue the trip. I bought the small fault clearing device and later on purchased the Faultmate Extreme. Both extremely useful. Must admit driving a P38 on the bumpstops when one has a bad back is the absolute pits. However it does tell you what a great job the suspension performs when in working order. Since replacing the bags (Arnott Gen 11) have not had problem and that was about three years ago.. Best of luck. Kind regards, David.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barabus
Maybe we should do up a "a few tips and learning techniques with eas" thread!
From my experience, if your car is slow to rise and you need to get going, leave the drivers door ajar while the engine warms up or while making your way down the street, then try and lift her up! Patience is a big thing on an empty air tank!
Cheers
Keithy
Never leave home without an EAS reset machine.
If there's a consistent problem, you'll soon be the proud owner of a new/reconditioned compressor. Whether you wanna be or not.
The EAS system is as malevolent as skynet and is probably self-aware.
Most of the time it works & it's very, very good.
But it's always waiting and watching for the best, most murphiest moment to go on strike and lift the profits of LR dealers.
It's the gift to LR that keeps on givin'...
Expect to be laughed at by small children if driving along the Hume at 110km/h on the bump stops. They will never have seen such a low, low, low, jiggly ride...
Follow the first step and you should avoid this ignominy.
Replace worn bags early and often. And the compressor inlet filter. Don't forget this bit neither.
That is all.
Keithy P38 Tips and Tricks idea as a seperate all in one place thread for the EAS is a great idea.
We have had a P38 for two years and I still am not sure how the EAS is suppose to operate in faultless mode. Is there a way of testing the driver unit for faults??rather than guessing and testing with a known working unit. Same for the ECU. The fault codes that are read on EAS Unlock etc are not really indicative of the problem at hand as many of the faults I understand can be caused by a number of issues not just the fault indicated. Like the message on the dash for a "Gearbox fault" really means the battery is low.:confused:
I think I will have to invest in the manual bypass air valve system at least then I can isolate the airbags and airlines to each wheel from problems associated with the valve block.
Hard to test for air leaks if you cant pump up the bag in the first place.