Suspension bushing kits

**isuzurover** · 20th March 2012, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by Hoges

The rear bush in the top photo which goes on the pin end of the radius arm doesn't look real flash but the lower photo with the cracked bush indicates a somewhat different design from that used on the P38

I am not for a minute trying to say they are the same as P38 bushes in design, just that they were bought from a very reputable supplier and "OEM standard, made to the original standard by the Original Equipment Manufacturer"

**Hoges** · 20th March 2012, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by isuzurover

I am not for a minute trying to say they are the same as P38 bushes in design, just that they were bought from a very reputable supplier and "OEM standard, made to the original standard by the Original Equipment Manufacturer"

Yep, understand that, my fault for not being clearer. The design issue appears to be a factor here re. the ability of the bush to withstand the rigorous forces to which it is exposed. The photo provided shows what appears to be a crack in the outer casing of the bush. That casing is not exposed in the P38 as it appears to be in the Defender design, but rather is compressed and pressed into the eye of the trailing arm where it is fully "enclosed". Thus any cracking of the outer casing is possibly less likely to be as 'catastrophic' as that illustrated by the design on the Defender...

It's not necessarily a black mark against OEM stuff...how long did the originals last? In other fora the comment is sometimes made that when it comes to rubber bushes...spend the $$$ and buy genuine parts.

**isuzurover** · 21st March 2012, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by Hoges

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It's not necessarily a black mark against OEM stuff...how long did the originals last? In other fora the comment is sometimes made that when it comes to rubber bushes...spend the $$$ and buy genuine parts.

The originals had done >200k km. However I have been told by people in the rubber industry that rubber formulations have changed in recent years. So comparing the longevity of original fitment bushes on older vehicles against new rubber bushes may not be possible/appropriate.

Either way, I am 100% happy with SuperPro and doubt I could ever be convinced to go back to rubber.

**DT-P38** · 21st March 2012, 09:14 AM

Stay calm people. Thats great feedback there... although your timing is ****ty! We would rather know now than too late though. Can you PM me the brand name so I can be sure we don't end up with them.

I think I am starting to understand why we don't see too many group buys happening through this forum!

In saying that, any one interested in P38 discreet winch mounts and rock sliders? The bushes process has at least forced me to get a final result on an outstanding job!

**ytt105** · 21st March 2012, 12:43 PM

Sounds good. I certainly don't need no silly paint!!!

I think I've got some Duck Egg Blue left over from the toilet walls I could use. HaHa

**Hoges** · 21st March 2012, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by ytt105

Sounds good. I certainly don't need no silly paint!!!

I think I've got some Duck Egg Blue left over from the toilet walls I could use. HaHa

now that's a coincidence... MB have a metallic colour of that hue ...saw one this morning. Driver fitted the demographic

**DT-P38** · 22nd March 2012, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by DT-P38

Stay calm people. Thats great feedback there... although your timing is ****ty! We would rather know now than too late though. Can you PM me the brand name so I can be sure we don't end up with them.

I think I am starting to understand why we don't see too many group buys happening through this forum!

In saying that, any one interested in P38 discreet winch mounts and rock sliders? The bushes process has at least forced me to get a final result on an outstanding job!

Originally Posted by isuzurover

I never got a brand name for the bushes. If you PM me your email address - or shoot me an email ( b.mullins@curtin.edu.au ) I can forward you my email exchange with Warren the manager of MR Automotive, who I bought the bushes from.

This is the only identfying mark on the bushes:
http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p...rip2010728.jpg

Hey there isuzurover,

Got your PM but could not reply to it as you are over your quota and cant receive more with out clearing out some old ones.

Anyway, I have a temp. email going at the moment dave@hardrange.com if you could send any info to there it would be appreciated Perhaps you could also ask Warren what the brand or who the manufacturer was. Alternatively I can chase that up myself which might help him understand bad experiences of bad product affect future sales... Even if it's for someone else on the other side of the country!!!

**BusinessConnected** · 22nd March 2012, 07:51 PM

Just seen this thread now...
Interested in

1) SuperPro Kit
2) Winch Mount (Assuming it'll work with Factory Wrap Around Bull Bar)
3) Rock Sliders Depending on Price...

**DT-P38** · 23rd March 2012, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by BusinessConnected

Just seen this thread now...
Interested in

1) SuperPro Kit
2) Winch Mount (Assuming it'll work with Factory Wrap Around Bull Bar)
3) Rock Sliders Depending on Price...

No prob's, I can still modify the order to add you for a SuperPro kit and just keep your eyes here for the other two when this one is sorted... will PM you to clarify $'s and account details for payment.

**Hoges** · 26th March 2012, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by philjphil

Thanks Dave.

I called into Ricks 4 x 4 at Nerang on the way home today and they said they will be happy to fit them next Tuesday, so will see how we go. If there is an issue I will contact you to order "easy fit" bushes.

Hoges look forward to hearing how you go.

Thanks both

I'd bought a set of OEM spec rear bushes about 2 yrs ago but hadn't been game to "have a go" until now...

SO:

Dropped both trailing arms on the w/e and drilled out the two "rivets" which attach the composite arm to the bush housing (there was a clunking noise which is due to the rivet type fixings stretching).

The bush housing is a 10mm thick aluminium extrusion.

I cleaned it up then pressed the bush out using a large socket I borrowed (a 3/4" drive type) and a 12T $160 press ....

To replace the bushes I carefully chamfered (3mm) them using a fine wheel on the 6" bench grinder

I also cut a 2mm chamfer using a Dremel on the bush housing.

I then heated the bush housing to about 90-100 deg C (as per thermocouple on the multimeter

) with an electric heat gun and , wearing welding gloves held bush/housing together while I "tapped" the lubricated (Lanoline grease) bush into place around the edges with a rubber mallet to get it started "square" in the bore of the housing.

I then placed the large socket over the bush and bit by bit forced it home with the press.

The whole job took about 10 minutes for each bush.

I'm amazed at the compression: The bush was 1.67mm wider than the housing. The lanoline lube worked very well.

I honed the bolt holes in the bush housing and composite arm slightly (there was only a couple of thou in it) with a 3/8" drill so they would accept a M 10 bolt.

I'll replace the rivet fixings with M10 10.9 grade coarse thread 70mm bolts plus thread locker and a nyloc nut to 55 ft lbs. (which is about 80% of their yield strength) Bolts to be threaded through from the top.

More later

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