Thread: p38 advice

hay pbrown i read your link, very interesting. I do have to ask about these gen 3 bags. do thay add lift only to the 'high' mode?
just asking because i have standard air bags and i got a quoat for the km2s 265/75r16 but i would feel like a real tool if i got the tyres only to find out i needed the gen 3's lol

The gen 3 bags are made by arnotts. They are bags designed to allow more travel downwards. So to me they seemed safer to lift the high mode using the eas (the computer lifts the car, without changing that the bags don't lift the car automatically) but I'm only up an inch these days because the stroke limit downwards is the shocks. So lift it too much and wheels can pop off the ground easier depending on the situation. But the bags are no where near stretched so I feel safer running permanently slightly higher on high mode.

I've had patches of research to get longer stroke shocks with the same closed length so no extended bump stops. No luck yet. Haven't given up though.

At normal height I have left it at standard as well as highway. But the ride is better with the gen 3 bags. There is loads of info on them buried in here about them. PaulP38 sold them to me and glad I bought them. Even more so once I find extended shocks. Spoke to Paul about the 2inch spacer lift kit he sold through hard range but was never convinced I always want to be 2 inches up in all modes.

Even at standard mode and standard height they are ok so standard bags and standard height should be ok. But no front mud flaps and possibly the unusual minor rub. Where I would be more worried is highway height round corners with the softer spring rates of the standard bags. It's only light rubbing on the rear with black marks but be warned.

Originally Posted by Keithy P38

They all do it! Mine did before I fitted the locker and still does now! Backlash has been set perfect in mine, and my diff looked fantastic when I pulled it out, no odd wear or missing teeth!

I think I'm thankful for hearing that again... But the tight arse in me isn't as thankful as it's now harder to spend the money lol. Just showing a Toyota or a Nissan up that little bit more would make it well worth it though ha ha.

Slightly off topic..... still. But the locker needs a pressure regulator to run off the eas air tank huh? Did you install it yourself and set the preload and backlash or pay someone? Either way how much or how hard? I've only ever replaced a whole centre so no settings needed.

I ran my solenoid straight off the tank, no pressure regulator. I am not actually sure if you need one as all the lockers I've bought (I have an ARB one in our dmax) none have a pressure regulator. And mine in the Rangie does not leak.

I installed the locker with the help of a mate. It's not hard to set the backlash. Best thing you can do is feel it (use your sixth sense as well) when you pull your old centre out and when you bolt everything to your new centre, tighten it to feel the same.

That's the first diff centre I have ever removed, and I'd do it again.

Originally Posted by Keithy P38

I ran my solenoid straight off the tank, no pressure regulator. I am not actually sure if you need one as all the lockers I've bought (I have an ARB one in our dmax) none have a pressure regulator. And mine in the Rangie does not leak.

I am going off memory now as I don't have Hard Rangie to go and check, am pretty sure the regulator to the locker was set at less than 100psi. With the pressure in the EAS tnak usually between 100-150psi it needed the regulator to keep the pressure down.

Thanks Paul!

Might head out and get one, would be a 5min job to add to my setup.

Yes I remember the Ashcroft locker was meant to be 90-100. And my tank says 130-135 according to the pressure gage on the emergency air kit.